There's no evidence to that effect; on what do you base that statement?
Joel Send a noteboard - 06/12/2010 02:14:09 AM
or rather, they're an inbred society with a bunch of purebred recessives running around.
Or rather, a closed genetic pool with a high predominance of recessive traits is not genocide. Sure, recessive eye color genes are the norm among the Aiel, but unless biology works very differently in Randland than in our far future/past Age there are still a few dark eyed Aiel somewhere. I live in Norway now; you don't have to tell ME how much more common recessive traits are in an isolated society, but I still see people with dark hair and/or eyes. They're the exception rather than the rule, but I don't automatically assume they aren't natives, and I'd look very foolish (at best) if I did.
An isolated bloodline is not ethnic cleansing; I assumed you knew that. As a military and general historian RJ was certainly aware of what ethnic cleansing is since it was the norm for victorious armies until fairly recently. Had he intended his heroic Aiel to be genocidal he surely would have given us an example of it, but he didn't. Not only is there no evidence for it, there's evidence against it. Jordan heavily implied an AoL Aes Sedai had a relationship with one of Rands more attractive ancestors, and assuming they adopted ethnic cleansing after becoming martial fails because, as my fiancee notes, they accepted Tigraine despite the fact she was obviously a wetlander. Their militance toward wetlanders is based on often justified mistrust, not racism; they welcome gleemen and smiths, happily trade with merchants (including the very untrustworthy Sharans) and their hatred for Cairhienin stems from a grave perceived insult that terminated a much longer period of friendship.
Is there something more than an assessment by a teenage stranger in the Waste to indicate there are NO (zero, none, zilch) dark eyed Aiel? Once again, he says the same of pale skin, ignoring the fact that he and every Aiel we've seen is pale above the tan line. It's far more reasonable to think the killers at the end of ToM are Aiel who forsook their honor and very probably the Light as well by killing unveiled. That makes far more sense than taking a single statement by a kid who only saw his first Aiel in the last few months as a definitive authoritative description of each of them.
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This message last edited by Joel on 06/12/2010 at 02:22:10 AM
The Turned Ashaman and Aiel - not 13x13
30/11/2010 10:20:07 PM
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Tarna's the only one we have a handle on
01/12/2010 01:39:28 AM
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The Aiel at the end are Aiel because they have veils (which they didn't replace before killing).
01/12/2010 02:01:17 PM
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Liah didn't veil in Aridhol when she killed some Trollocs.
01/12/2010 03:41:56 PM
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True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal.
02/12/2010 01:18:14 AM
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Re: True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal.
02/12/2010 11:08:16 AM
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There's actually a pretty good chance they aren't channelers, I think.
02/12/2010 02:45:41 PM
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Whoever she had been, she was surely no Aiel, not with that pale skin and /those dark eyes./
02/12/2010 12:34:46 AM
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"An Aes Sedai, perhaps. "
02/12/2010 01:59:32 AM
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The point is it doesn't look like an Aiel
02/12/2010 04:22:14 AM
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Perhaps the black eyes are due to something akin to the saa? *NM*
02/12/2010 11:12:03 AM
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Makes sense if they're Dreadlords, though, in a way, that would be disappointing.
06/12/2010 02:39:54 AM
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FIFTY quatloos on the oldcomers!
02/12/2010 02:37:19 PM
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They did "ethnically cleanse"
03/12/2010 07:50:24 AM
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There's no evidence to that effect; on what do you base that statement?
06/12/2010 02:14:09 AM
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I suppose that means the guys who stabbed Demira in Caemlyn were Aiel too
05/12/2010 04:56:59 PM
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If these guys were trying to make it look like a failed AIel killing, they suck at it.
05/12/2010 06:10:32 PM
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Re: If these guys were trying to make it look like a failed AIel killing, they suck at it.
05/12/2010 11:26:52 PM
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Glad we're on the same page now.
06/12/2010 02:24:38 AM
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I'm not holding my breath that they are Aiel
06/12/2010 08:42:11 PM
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Seriously framed comments usually prompt responses in kind.
06/12/2010 10:12:08 PM
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Just pointing out that it's been a sure sign of shenanigans when RJ pointed to something as obvious
07/12/2010 03:52:46 AM
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I thought this was what it meant. Posted about it in another thread somewhere.
01/12/2010 03:12:19 PM
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