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go read the boooks more closely darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 02:34:11 PM
You were saying that it should have been impossible for her to show the Seanchan the gateway.

"The oath against using the OP as a weapon should have prevented Elaida or any captive Aes Sedai from showing the Seanchan Travelling."


Yeah, it COULD have been an Accepted who saw the Travelling weave. It didnt HAVE to be Elaida (or any Aes Sedai) who knew the weave was going to cause death.

Explain the actions of Perrin's Aes Sedai in ToM. The weave Perrin asked them to do was NOT going to cause any direct deaths, yet they refused saying they could not help.


Of course it had to be Elaida! In the Tower she held all of the "new weaves" very closely. Showing only Tarna and commanding her not to share. That means only Elaida, Alviarin and Beonin were the only Tower women who knew the weave to teach the Seanchan in the first place, and let's face it having Elaida end up being the damane to teach the Empire Traveling is more interesting than Beonin!

Some random Accepted or Novice from the Tower would never have seen the weave much less have been able to easily replicate it for the Seanchan, just like Shalon the Wind Finder couldn't reproduce it just by seeing a completed one ... she would have needed someone to show her how to make the weave itself.
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Elaida, oh no you didn't! malekithe - 04/12/2010 06:38:22 AM 1947 Views
The weave will not directly result in death Helene - 04/12/2010 06:54:20 AM 862 Views
Re: The weave will not directly result in death malekithe - 04/12/2010 07:08:50 AM 777 Views
Wrong for two reasons Voscaia Sedai - 04/12/2010 09:10:03 AM 935 Views
Only two? Usually he's wrong for eight reasons. *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2010 09:47:37 AM 419 Views
Go jump in a lake malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:32:18 AM 664 Views
I wanted to be polite and mentioned just the major ones *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2010 10:44:25 AM 382 Views
Thank you, Voscaia Sedai *NM* Evil_Monkey - 04/12/2010 08:51:58 PM 331 Views
Re: Wrong for two reasons malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:39:02 AM 685 Views
you're forgetting she was collared. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:01:27 AM 572 Views
Re: you're forgetting she was collared. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:08:30 AM 659 Views
uhm, no that's not all you're saying. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:14:47 AM 662 Views
Yeah I am malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:17:48 AM 591 Views
no. dude i gave you a direct quote from your own statement. that is not what you said LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:20:14 AM 728 Views
Go dude yourself brother. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:27:33 AM 586 Views
wow i just...wow. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:33:41 AM 673 Views
Re: wow i just...wow. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:45:47 AM 665 Views
yes well you genuinely seem to be having a problem comprehending your own statements. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:51:18 AM 545 Views
Well you genuinely seem to be retarded. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:59:19 AM 592 Views
I judge this based off your own reactions to other's statements LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:05:58 AM 693 Views
I judge you based on your own statements towards me malekithe - 05/12/2010 10:16:18 AM 624 Views
if all you did was disagree with me, we would not be having this discussion. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:25:36 AM 534 Views
This is why I replied the way I did *NM* Deadsy - 05/12/2010 10:51:54 AM 296 Views
go read the boooks more closely darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:34:11 PM 963 Views
Plain wrong. The weave doesn't kill in itself. Ashaman_Luc - 04/12/2010 02:34:00 PM 762 Views
Wrong malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:40:40 AM 591 Views
This redqueen - 04/12/2010 12:35:04 PM 610 Views
Seconded "This"^ *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:09:17 PM 281 Views
Thirded "This"^ *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2010 10:47:56 AM 337 Views
Re: Fourthed "This"^ *NM* alanna aes sedai - 05/12/2010 08:08:15 PM 292 Views
yep, he was just trolling I guess *NM* Lo'oris - 05/12/2010 01:58:32 PM 290 Views
the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death Ava - 04/12/2010 02:55:13 PM 601 Views
Re: the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:43:48 AM 684 Views
just because they didn't want to doesn't mean they weren't able. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:07:08 AM 631 Views
Re: just because they didn't want to doesn't mean they weren't able. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:11:28 AM 639 Views
well that would explain how santa is able to make his rounds in one night! *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:13:42 AM 296 Views
well that would explain how santa is able to make his rounds in one night! *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:13:43 AM 245 Views
Yup, I guess that was what Elaida was thinking *NM* malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:15:21 AM 298 Views
Re: the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death HyogaRott - 06/12/2010 03:44:33 PM 586 Views
It's actually come up in the books themselves darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 03:00:03 PM 735 Views
Re: Elaida, oh no you didn't! Zeratul - 04/12/2010 03:30:57 PM 640 Views
Elaida could teach them balefire and not break the Oaths. *NM* Gher - 04/12/2010 07:24:55 PM 279 Views
This is ridiculous. You can teach any weave, including Balefire. You just can't always use it. *NM* Marshall - 05/12/2010 06:37:16 AM 253 Views
You can teach a weave so long as YOU believe that the weave won't be a weapon. Elaida knows better *NM* malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:13:57 AM 295 Views
This is false, we've seen battle weaves taught since the start of the series. Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:49:13 PM 560 Views
Right? and every AS seems to know how to make a fireball and call lightning darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:44:45 PM 550 Views
that's where you are wrong darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:43:21 PM 560 Views
Re: Elaida, oh no you didn't! benxtaron - 05/12/2010 08:32:50 AM 769 Views
There's another way she could have avoided it redqueen - 05/12/2010 11:37:09 AM 586 Views
Re: There's another way she could have avoided it Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:51:06 PM 941 Views
Re: There's another way she could have avoided it Watcher - 06/12/2010 01:43:45 PM 576 Views
I disagree redqueen - 06/12/2010 02:29:46 PM 613 Views
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