Indeed ... Nynaeve is basically being very inefficient with her Power
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 04/12/2010 02:50:13 PM
Nynaeve is actually very good at using the power instinctively, as well, and not just in healing. In her test for Accepted she called down lightning from the sky, threw fireballs, and broke buildings, and that was before anyone started training her. That was just what she could do by instinct without her block.
We see this again in ToM in her test for the shawl, and Egwene commented on it: her ability to use "useless" weaves as weapons and hindrances.
She is similar to Aviendha in the way she channels by instinct and with ingenuity. She is not (and wasn't even when Cadsuane made this comment) completely ignorant of ways to use the power that aren't healing. She is actually very skilled and dexterous at using the Power in whatever way she can imagine.
What Cadsuane should have said was "It's remarkable how well you do everything, without having much of it taught to you."
That comment bugged me as well. Look at when it's made. After a bunch of Mog's knowledge was filtered through Nynaeve. Cadsuane hadn't returned to the rebels, the rebel embassy left early LOC before most discoveries were 'made' by Elayne and Nynaeve, so here Cadsuane meets a channeler stronger then her, who can a whole bunch of things no other Aes Sedai has been able to do since the Age of Legends AND is a superb Healer on top of that, and she's meant to be unskilled in the One Power!?!?! What does that make every other Aes Sedai outside the Forsaken and Rand, including herself?!
If the comment had been skilled at the One Power, but otherwise unskilled at everything, it could be taken as Cads arrogance and sounded true, but it wasn't.
We see this again in ToM in her test for the shawl, and Egwene commented on it: her ability to use "useless" weaves as weapons and hindrances.
She is similar to Aviendha in the way she channels by instinct and with ingenuity. She is not (and wasn't even when Cadsuane made this comment) completely ignorant of ways to use the power that aren't healing. She is actually very skilled and dexterous at using the Power in whatever way she can imagine.
What Cadsuane should have said was "It's remarkable how well you do everything, without having much of it taught to you."
Nynaeve is well rounded in all 5 powers. Also, Cadsuane's comment about Nynaeve's skill at Healing being amazing and complete lack of knowledge of almost anything else equally amazingly bad.
That comment bugged me as well. Look at when it's made. After a bunch of Mog's knowledge was filtered through Nynaeve. Cadsuane hadn't returned to the rebels, the rebel embassy left early LOC before most discoveries were 'made' by Elayne and Nynaeve, so here Cadsuane meets a channeler stronger then her, who can a whole bunch of things no other Aes Sedai has been able to do since the Age of Legends AND is a superb Healer on top of that, and she's meant to be unskilled in the One Power!?!?! What does that make every other Aes Sedai outside the Forsaken and Rand, including herself?!
If the comment had been skilled at the One Power, but otherwise unskilled at everything, it could be taken as Cads arrogance and sounded true, but it wasn't.
Being instictively good at something is only a benefit when you are doing something no one else can do. There is a fine line between the learned it another way block and the learned it but not finessed it situation. Nynaeve has no finess and it has been commented on regularly. As Caddy's Yellow with the "S" name demonstrates having a "Talent" is often when a person can regulate a weave without using enormous amounts of Power. She compares herself essentially in effectiveness to a full circle of average AS healers. Nynaeve is essentially always using too much power for the task at hand. Once she learns the weave she makes no effort to weave it more effectively. The weave and the skill/talent with the weave are two distinct things.
Which is what I think Cadsuane and Sumiko are both commenting on in regards to Nynaeve. Rather than refine her skill to the point where she can use less Power in a weave she simply increases the amount of Power to get her desired effect. Samitsu's statement validates this thought as well since on her own she can nearly match a circle in Healing!
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Nice strength/skill comparison that settles a lot of things
- 25/11/2010 04:55:16 PM
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Re: Nice strength/skill comparison that settles a lot of things
- 25/11/2010 05:55:06 PM
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Re: Nice strength/skill comparison that settles a lot of things
- 26/11/2010 12:10:57 AM
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I thought this particularly absurd because
- 26/11/2010 03:19:41 AM
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Re: I thought this particularly absurd because
- 01/12/2010 09:18:09 PM
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Indeed ... Nynaeve is basically being very inefficient with her Power
- 04/12/2010 02:50:13 PM
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Yes...
- 25/11/2010 06:23:10 PM
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Yep, She can pick up new weaves almost instantly. ie the 100 weave lessons *NM*
- 26/11/2010 01:07:17 AM
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Re: Yep, She can pick up new weaves almost instantly. ie the 100 weave lessons
- 27/11/2010 07:12:02 AM
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It was never really clarified if she really Listened to the Wind or to ripples in mental energy
- 02/12/2010 11:29:05 PM
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The only issue is one I've pondered before: your strength defines your skills and sex, capabilities
- 02/12/2010 11:27:23 PM
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Actually I think Nynaeve's comment is rather silly unless she had in fact linked with or been told
- 04/12/2010 02:42:27 PM
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another example using Naeff
- 04/12/2010 07:26:58 PM
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Cadsuane is using an angreal *NM*
- 04/12/2010 08:39:28 PM
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Re: Cadsuane is using an angreal
- 04/12/2010 09:39:35 PM
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And she would take it into the equation
- 05/12/2010 06:09:48 AM
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Cadsuane doesn't advertise what her ornaments are, only a handful of people know what they do
- 05/12/2010 02:49:30 PM
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Cadsuane doesn't advertise what her ornaments are, only a handful of people know what they do
- 05/12/2010 02:58:37 PM
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