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So... guttering flame Send a noteboard - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM

Actually, the evidence for this is mostly from Thom's legends from the Age before the Age of Legends.

Wolfbrothers and the Portal Stones (and the Horn of Valere) are from an Age before the Age of Legends. This is not the same as the Age before the Age of Legends.


If the portal stones come from an age before ours they should be present in our age, in an even better state than they are two ages later. And yet we have no evidence of their existence.


That's not chronological nomenclature, that's just a description of the effects of time on history. This can be ages, millennia, centuries, generations... it depends on context.

Incidentally, why do you insist on making technology and Dreamers/Wolfkin a dichotomy?


So are you saying the dreamers and wolfbrothers fit in our age?
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How do you figure? - 02/12/2010 10:55:15 PM 963 Views
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may, being the operative word. - 02/12/2010 11:12:49 PM 875 Views
except for the part of the soul that stays in the sleeping body, like they've explained many times. *NM* - 02/12/2010 11:16:43 PM 420 Views
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Re: Oh, I see. - 03/12/2010 02:45:59 AM 858 Views
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GASP! *NM* - 04/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 493 Views
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So... - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM 838 Views
Re: So... - 04/12/2010 10:12:45 AM 796 Views
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uhm, duh, stonehedge. - 04/12/2010 07:11:44 PM 747 Views
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Maybe, but I bet they can spell it. - 03/12/2010 05:43:28 AM 836 Views
Incidentally, wouldn't that mean it is safer to go to Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh? *NM* - 03/12/2010 09:35:21 PM 417 Views
I'm more inclined to believe that being killed in the flesh in TAR - 04/12/2010 07:35:15 PM 705 Views
Where does that reasoning begin? - 04/12/2010 07:53:42 PM 1270 Views
Perhaps it's more of a matter that the "usual route" may be altered? - 04/12/2010 10:20:51 PM 683 Views
But human souls don't go to Tel'aran'rhiod, from what we know. - 04/12/2010 11:19:53 PM 704 Views
maybe it does? - 05/12/2010 12:18:05 AM 1033 Views
So do we have any reason to believe this is the case? *NM* - 05/12/2010 02:48:48 AM 402 Views
I don't think so. It's not really something that's discussed - 05/12/2010 03:19:37 AM 566 Views
I'm pondering too - 05/12/2010 03:04:10 PM 862 Views
Not @ all - if humans regularly go to TAR after they die, we'd have seen it already. Heroes would - 04/12/2010 01:28:45 AM 881 Views
that would have been decidedly clever. *NM* - 04/12/2010 07:18:52 PM 360 Views

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