That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it.
LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 02/12/2010 11:17:46 PM
How, exactly, would you expect them to discover this? Most incarnations of the same person aren't aware of who they were in a previous life, so the Wise Ones have no way of going "You know, X was killed in T'A'R', but we haven't had any record of them being respun in GENERATIONS!!"
Why does Perrin know?
The wolves told him. And the wolves seem to have a much stronger and integral link to T'A'R' than humans do. We can't even be sure that this applies to human souls as well. Probably the only human individuals aware of whether or not this occurs would be the Heroes of the Horn when they are not presently spun out. So the only character who is able to answer this question for us is Birgitte, and she may not know either.
If this was common knowledge and the Wise Ones just didn't know, it'd be a "most basic" thing. But they don't know and they have no real ability to find out, so it's far from a basic piece of knowledge.
Why does Perrin know?
The wolves told him. And the wolves seem to have a much stronger and integral link to T'A'R' than humans do. We can't even be sure that this applies to human souls as well. Probably the only human individuals aware of whether or not this occurs would be the Heroes of the Horn when they are not presently spun out. So the only character who is able to answer this question for us is Birgitte, and she may not know either.
If this was common knowledge and the Wise Ones just didn't know, it'd be a "most basic" thing. But they don't know and they have no real ability to find out, so it's far from a basic piece of knowledge.
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Egwene and the WIse Ones don't know the most basic thing about Teleranriod
- 02/12/2010 10:43:16 PM
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IIRC Nicola was killed by a Black Ajah Sister and Egwene had tried to save her.
- 02/12/2010 10:52:01 PM
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Yes, I meant allowing her near the battle in the first place
- 03/12/2010 06:28:45 AM
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And who would enforce those rules?
- 03/12/2010 12:42:33 PM
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Also, I'm not sure how you could expect the Wise Ones to know that.
- 03/12/2010 02:51:43 PM
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How do you figure?
- 02/12/2010 10:55:15 PM
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Re: How do you figure?
- 02/12/2010 11:06:29 PM
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may, being the operative word.
- 02/12/2010 11:12:49 PM
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except for the part of the soul that stays in the sleeping body, like they've explained many times. *NM*
- 02/12/2010 11:16:43 PM
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mmm fair point. maybe if you were there "too strongly"?
- 02/12/2010 11:18:50 PM
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right. but i dont think 'too strongly' ever means completely. maybe in the flesh or something 
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- 03/12/2010 01:24:38 AM
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- 03/12/2010 01:24:38 AM
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Oh, I see.
- 02/12/2010 11:45:37 PM
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Re: Oh, I see.
- 03/12/2010 02:29:30 AM
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Re: Oh, I see.
- 03/12/2010 02:45:59 AM
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He isn't a wolfbrother
- 03/12/2010 05:43:06 AM
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You raise an interesting possibility
- 03/12/2010 06:44:18 AM
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Wolfbrothers are going to be part of the next age.
- 03/12/2010 07:05:30 AM
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I thought they were just a transitional thing
- 03/12/2010 07:13:17 AM
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I doubt it, that Age is ours.
- 03/12/2010 09:33:03 PM
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I know RJ said something
- 04/12/2010 06:15:51 AM
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Re: I know RJ said something
- 04/12/2010 07:05:50 AM
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So...
- 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM
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Re: So...
- 04/12/2010 10:12:45 AM
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Of course...
- 05/12/2010 08:21:05 PM
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If the first age is the Technological / Scientific Age
- 06/12/2010 06:33:18 AM
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I don't see why they would have to be unique themes.
- 06/12/2010 07:04:08 AM
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I don't even know why they're supposed to be mutually exclusive. *NM*
- 06/12/2010 07:37:35 AM
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No, because Heroes and Wolves are both different from run of the mill humans
- 03/12/2010 09:19:05 AM
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That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it.
- 02/12/2010 11:17:46 PM
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Re: That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it.
- 03/12/2010 02:42:39 AM
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It could be extrapolated from the fact that it's souls that inhabit it
- 03/12/2010 06:54:40 AM
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You're caving to bias from being outside the story with more information than any single character.
- 03/12/2010 09:13:12 AM
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Don't forget the Heroes
- 03/12/2010 09:34:43 AM
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I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version
- 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM
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Maybe this should be a question for Sanderson?
- 03/12/2010 11:43:54 AM
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that's only because you're stubbornly holding to yours, despite everyone indicating its errors 
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- 03/12/2010 05:29:15 PM
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- 03/12/2010 05:29:15 PM
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Obviously my tenacity indicates that I have a worthy point
- 03/12/2010 07:06:18 PM
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Perrin doesn't count since his information is from Hopper
- 03/12/2010 09:58:01 PM
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Incidentally, wouldn't that mean it is safer to go to Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh? *NM*
- 03/12/2010 09:35:21 PM
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I'm more inclined to believe that being killed in the flesh in TAR
- 04/12/2010 07:35:15 PM
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Where does that reasoning begin?
- 04/12/2010 07:53:42 PM
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Perhaps it's more of a matter that the "usual route" may be altered?
- 04/12/2010 10:20:51 PM
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But human souls don't go to Tel'aran'rhiod, from what we know.
- 04/12/2010 11:19:53 PM
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maybe it does?
- 05/12/2010 12:18:05 AM
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So do we have any reason to believe this is the case? *NM*
- 05/12/2010 02:48:48 AM
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Not @ all - if humans regularly go to TAR after they die, we'd have seen it already. Heroes would
- 04/12/2010 01:28:45 AM
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