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FIFTY quatloos on the oldcomers! Joel Send a noteboard - 02/12/2010 02:37:19 PM
If it looks like an Aiel, lopes like an Aiel and wears a veil like an Aiel, in my book, it's an Aiel.
I chose that quotation because it's pithy.

Yeah, well, beware of Pithy Pet Phrases....
Aiel have light eyes and light hair, almost universally. We have never seen an Aiel with dark eyes before. So faced with five data points (black and brown clothing, red veils, spears on their back, dark eyes which are glassy and hard, pointy teeth) one of which is disqualifying and only one of which is common to Aiel (spears), I say they're plainly not Aiel and another explanation is needed.

"Loping" crouched-over while reading tracks is an Aiel attribute? A unique one? Sorry, I don't think that's grounded in fact. Many societies veil, including the Taraboners and the Sharans, and Aiel veils are black, not red. Cadin'sor are tan, not black. What in the description of these "Aiel" (provided by someone who thought they were Myrddraal seconds earlier and "not Aiel" seconds later) is recognizably unique to the Aiel? Nothing.

The Aiels long low stride appears unique to them, yes; who else has demonstrated it? While blue or green eyes are the norm, unless the Aiel ethnically cleansed the brown eyed people there should still be a few. We know little about Sharans, but Sanderson is on record that they won't play a significant role in the series (i.e. he won't introduce a small army of them at the far end of the world in the penultimate books cliffhanger). Domani don't don and remove their veils regularly and, while they do move like dancers, they don't do it with short hafted spears strapped to their backs. For that matter, how many non-Aiel carry MULTIPLE spears at a time? Carrying around normal spears on your back would be a bit cumbersome; forget about flying spin kicks wearing those. We saw Aiel following Rand begin adding bits of green to their cadin'sor soon after arriving in the Wetlands; Aiel in the Blight would be expected to alter their camouflage as well. Red veils are unprecedented among Aiel, but filing ones teeth to points is unprecedented among humans (in Randland). Does that mean we're dealing with some new kind of Shadowspawn? The only undeniably non-Aiel thing they do is REMOVE their veils before killing; otherwise they're weird looking Aiel, but clearly Aiel nonetheless.

The simplest and most logical explanation is that they're Darkfriend Aiel, either captured and turned male channelers or some sort of Darkfriend warrior society. Occams Razor isn't a law, but that's still the way I'd bet; if they aren't Aiel, wtf are they, wtf did Sanderson (or Jordan) muddy the waters with them, and wtf are we only now learning of them...?
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The Turned Ashaman and Aiel - not 13x13 - 30/11/2010 10:20:07 PM 1596 Views
I didn't see it, but I think this could be a good catch - 30/11/2010 10:38:56 PM 852 Views
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The Aiel at the end are Aiel because they have veils (which they didn't replace before killing). - 01/12/2010 02:01:17 PM 726 Views
Liah didn't veil in Aridhol when she killed some Trollocs. - 01/12/2010 03:41:56 PM 960 Views
True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal. - 02/12/2010 01:18:14 AM 752 Views
Re: True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal. - 02/12/2010 11:08:16 AM 629 Views
Whoever she had been, she was surely no Aiel, not with that pale skin and /those dark eyes./ - 02/12/2010 12:34:46 AM 673 Views
"An Aes Sedai, perhaps. " - 02/12/2010 01:59:32 AM 593 Views
The point is it doesn't look like an Aiel - 02/12/2010 04:22:14 AM 641 Views
FIFTY quatloos on the oldcomers! - 02/12/2010 02:37:19 PM 789 Views
They did "ethnically cleanse" - 03/12/2010 07:50:24 AM 656 Views
There's no evidence to that effect; on what do you base that statement? - 06/12/2010 02:14:09 AM 781 Views
No, I was being facetious about "cleansing" - 07/12/2010 02:55:30 PM 706 Views

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