I'm sorry, but I can't see where you're going with that. A woman depicted in a stained glass window created 3000 years ago in Rhuidean means the flesh and blood killers in the Epilogue, moving in the familiar Aiel crouching lope, with short hafted spears strapped to their backs, wearing veils (albeit red ones) aren't Aiel because they both have black eyes? If they aren't Aiel, they do a good impression only spoiled by the lack of blue or green contacts. If anything it shows there were embarrassing errors even in TFoH, the series' best book, (assuming THESE dark eyed Aiel aren't an error) but I choose to chalk that up to Rands ignorance at the time rather than Jordans (AND HARRIETS) sloppiness. Pale skin means you can't be Aiel? Looked in a mirror lately, Rand? Presumably he realized by the end of the book that pale skin isn't that uncommon among Aiel; he certainly saw enough of Aviendhas pale untanned skin. Brown eyes should be even more common, since the gene for brown eyes is dominant.
If it looks like an Aiel, lopes like an Aiel and wears a veil like an Aiel, in my book, it's an Aiel. Something hinky's definitely going on, IMHO; it might be an oversight if Sanderson just mentioned the fangs during the killing, but that the Aiel BEGINS veiled, we're specifically told he removes it and THEN Barriga is killed argues there's more going on than that. I don't recall Aviendha veiling to kill gara lizards or the snake Rand encounters in the Waste, so MAYBE these new Aiel consider Borderlanders, Wetlanders or just Lightsiders such low forms of life that they're animals to be hunted rather than humans to be killed. It might be as simple as the Aiel who joined neither Rand NOR the Shaido after taken by the Bleakness renouncing all traditional ways that have no MORE than tradition to justify them. If the origin of veiling (to conceal the shame of abandoning the Way of the Leaf) has become common knowledge those unwilling to give up the Way of the Warrior may have discarded the practice entirely, but retained the veil for its functional purpose in the desert Waste. I think they're undeniably Aiel though; not veiling raises more questions about that than their eyes do for me.
If it looks like an Aiel, lopes like an Aiel and wears a veil like an Aiel, in my book, it's an Aiel. Something hinky's definitely going on, IMHO; it might be an oversight if Sanderson just mentioned the fangs during the killing, but that the Aiel BEGINS veiled, we're specifically told he removes it and THEN Barriga is killed argues there's more going on than that. I don't recall Aviendha veiling to kill gara lizards or the snake Rand encounters in the Waste, so MAYBE these new Aiel consider Borderlanders, Wetlanders or just Lightsiders such low forms of life that they're animals to be hunted rather than humans to be killed. It might be as simple as the Aiel who joined neither Rand NOR the Shaido after taken by the Bleakness renouncing all traditional ways that have no MORE than tradition to justify them. If the origin of veiling (to conceal the shame of abandoning the Way of the Leaf) has become common knowledge those unwilling to give up the Way of the Warrior may have discarded the practice entirely, but retained the veil for its functional purpose in the desert Waste. I think they're undeniably Aiel though; not veiling raises more questions about that than their eyes do for me.
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The Turned Ashaman and Aiel - not 13x13
30/11/2010 10:20:07 PM
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Tarna's the only one we have a handle on
01/12/2010 01:39:28 AM
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The Aiel at the end are Aiel because they have veils (which they didn't replace before killing).
01/12/2010 02:01:17 PM
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Liah didn't veil in Aridhol when she killed some Trollocs.
01/12/2010 03:41:56 PM
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True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal.
02/12/2010 01:18:14 AM
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Re: True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal.
02/12/2010 11:08:16 AM
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There's actually a pretty good chance they aren't channelers, I think.
02/12/2010 02:45:41 PM
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Whoever she had been, she was surely no Aiel, not with that pale skin and /those dark eyes./
02/12/2010 12:34:46 AM
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"An Aes Sedai, perhaps. "
02/12/2010 01:59:32 AM
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The point is it doesn't look like an Aiel
02/12/2010 04:22:14 AM
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Perhaps the black eyes are due to something akin to the saa? *NM*
02/12/2010 11:12:03 AM
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Makes sense if they're Dreadlords, though, in a way, that would be disappointing.
06/12/2010 02:39:54 AM
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FIFTY quatloos on the oldcomers!
02/12/2010 02:37:19 PM
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They did "ethnically cleanse"
03/12/2010 07:50:24 AM
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There's no evidence to that effect; on what do you base that statement?
06/12/2010 02:14:09 AM
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I suppose that means the guys who stabbed Demira in Caemlyn were Aiel too
05/12/2010 04:56:59 PM
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If these guys were trying to make it look like a failed AIel killing, they suck at it.
05/12/2010 06:10:32 PM
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Re: If these guys were trying to make it look like a failed AIel killing, they suck at it.
05/12/2010 11:26:52 PM
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Glad we're on the same page now.
06/12/2010 02:24:38 AM
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I'm not holding my breath that they are Aiel
06/12/2010 08:42:11 PM
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Seriously framed comments usually prompt responses in kind.
06/12/2010 10:12:08 PM
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Just pointing out that it's been a sure sign of shenanigans when RJ pointed to something as obvious
07/12/2010 03:52:46 AM
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I thought this was what it meant. Posted about it in another thread somewhere.
01/12/2010 03:12:19 PM
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