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Re: War and Peace was very thematic Lo'oris Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM
But the point is that if you have trouble suspending disbelief because people do not suffer enough, or act strangely, or get supernatural assistance, or whatnot, the fault is generally yours and not that of the author. You can believe anything if you try.


This is not true in general.
If the story is badly written, lacking coherence or making no sense, suspension of disbelief just dies.
That's not the case here, I'm just nitpicking saying that it is the case somewhere.
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Io iudico bene questo: che sia meglio essere impetuoso che respettivo, perché la fortuna è donna ed è necessario, volendola tenere sotto, batterla e urtarla.
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Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Shannow - 28/11/2010 03:38:14 PM 2698 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Lo'oris - 28/11/2010 04:05:48 PM 1365 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 12:27:27 AM 1278 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 12:36:49 AM 1263 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 01:59:18 AM 1283 Views
Yes, she still lets herself be ruled by her desire to control everything Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 02:39:34 AM 1239 Views
I vote it has come to pass Comet Sedai - 29/11/2010 02:48:26 AM 1101 Views
*facepalm* - good point, not sure how I missed that. *NM* Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 03:12:00 AM 656 Views
Re: I vote it has come to pass Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 09:42:51 AM 1105 Views
Prophecy never said she would be angry at the time, Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 11:36:53 AM 1177 Views
lol true, gg *NM* Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 11:52:54 AM 631 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... lodlom - 28/11/2010 04:43:46 PM 1281 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Lo'oris - 28/11/2010 04:49:23 PM 1226 Views
Aviendha's vision doesn't automatically mean the Light will win Ava - 28/11/2010 05:32:56 PM 1522 Views
She doesn't even see that. The arches just show a possibility. LadyLorraine - 29/11/2010 07:12:05 PM 1060 Views
Indeed Sidious - 28/11/2010 06:16:41 PM 1180 Views
am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks newyorkersedai - 28/11/2010 08:00:23 PM 1383 Views
i think most people feel that way Sidious - 29/11/2010 09:06:44 AM 1209 Views
I agree with you darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 05:13:38 PM 1005 Views
Re: am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/11/2010 06:40:18 PM 1141 Views
And in the interest of fairness, SH should've been all up in Osangar's intimate business newyorkersedai - 29/11/2010 11:34:21 PM 1187 Views
Agreed. The series is formulaic and predictable, and even I expected a few more twists. Tom - 28/11/2010 07:47:10 PM 1252 Views
Good reading for adrenaline junkies, maybe. *NM* moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 12:32:53 AM 684 Views
I'm sure that all the men Ituralde lost would agree with you about it being a breeze -_- Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 12:32:56 AM 1139 Views
Byar was compulsed Comet Sedai - 29/11/2010 12:46:01 AM 1444 Views
I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 02:16:45 AM 1088 Views
Re: I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 09:44:05 AM 1063 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed Vidarfe - 29/11/2010 12:54:38 PM 1402 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 12:59:31 PM 1119 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed Vidarfe - 29/11/2010 01:10:18 PM 1133 Views
He disbelieves in the Heroes guttering flame - 29/11/2010 03:33:27 PM 1092 Views
I think that's his mind deceiving itself LadyLorraine - 29/11/2010 07:19:05 PM 1145 Views
I didn't say he was necessarily Compulsed guttering flame - 30/11/2010 07:40:51 AM 1048 Views
Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? LadyLorraine - 30/11/2010 11:55:42 AM 1172 Views
Re: Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? guttering flame - 30/11/2010 12:05:44 PM 1032 Views
he makes no mention of the Heroes. LadyLorraine - 30/11/2010 10:42:13 PM 1144 Views
They did get another thing right Fox and Ravens - 29/11/2010 12:40:52 AM 1143 Views
Not Mat's fault, really - Verin didn't rehash her opinion of him. Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 02:18:17 AM 1101 Views
It's the WOT Red Shirt syndrome ajfurst - 29/11/2010 04:29:12 AM 1224 Views
I don't want everyone to win and end up happily ever after though. moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 04:33:06 AM 1122 Views
The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable ajfurst - 29/11/2010 04:41:04 AM 1249 Views
Re: The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 09:50:26 AM 1228 Views
You, good sir, are Team Aan'allein - 30/11/2010 06:53:49 PM 1030 Views
I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/11/2010 06:50:34 PM 1006 Views
Re: I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. Itachi - 30/11/2010 01:47:27 AM 1137 Views
It's a well told story with fun characters overall, but it's definitely not "War & Peace" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/11/2010 06:33:12 PM 1239 Views
+1 *NM* Tom - 29/11/2010 07:18:13 PM 585 Views
it is. I love it anyways, though LadyLorraine - 29/11/2010 07:23:24 PM 1030 Views
War and Peace was very thematic moratcorlm - 30/11/2010 05:00:30 AM 1470 Views
Doublethink for the win! *NM* guttering flame - 30/11/2010 07:35:20 AM 613 Views
Re: War and Peace was very thematic Lo'oris - 30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM 1091 Views
I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM 1077 Views
I've always thought of this series (and fantasy in general) are a bit like Aesop's Fables LadyLorraine - 30/11/2010 10:44:09 PM 1016 Views
Please tell me what drugs you're on Tom - 01/12/2010 04:04:39 AM 1186 Views
It's called 'reality' - I agree with LadyLorraine & Moratcorlm RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2010 07:57:35 PM 1097 Views
You are absolutely wrong. Tom - 02/12/2010 04:53:52 AM 1068 Views
You are incorrect - you should read the definition you reference before posting it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 04:19:16 PM 1188 Views
No, I read the ENTIRE article, unlike you. You have to scroll down a bit. Tom - 02/12/2010 05:47:13 PM 987 Views
No, you need to read and comprehend. That was a THEORY. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 07:11:01 PM 897 Views
It's really very simple. Tom - 04/12/2010 12:31:16 AM 1175 Views
mk, I think I understand more what you meant now after reading this exchange LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 05:42:47 AM 1107 Views
I still don't agree; sorry. I don't think this theory applies to everyone. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/12/2010 05:30:41 PM 1205 Views
No, those are disbeliefs that you must suspend. LadyLorraine - 01/12/2010 08:18:25 PM 1010 Views
You have to feel the characters are somehow believable to empathize with them. Tom - 02/12/2010 01:05:29 AM 1058 Views
I don't see how WoT's writing (Before, or now) prevents that LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 04:12:54 AM 915 Views
I'm not arguing that it necessarily does for everyone, just that YOU HAVE TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF Tom - 02/12/2010 04:48:51 AM 1107 Views
That's a load of crap... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2010 06:03:13 AM 1245 Views
Sure moratcorlm - 01/12/2010 01:30:03 AM 1033 Views
Black Tower Itachi - 30/11/2010 01:50:29 AM 1016 Views
Re: Black Tower RAAM - 30/11/2010 01:57:48 AM 1149 Views
No, the worst case scenario is that the entire tower becomes 13+13'd and fights for the Shadow Lord Haart - 30/11/2010 04:03:07 AM 972 Views
I agree with everything. Avendesora - 30/11/2010 01:37:11 PM 1169 Views
Hopper's death... oh god... saangrealsmoker - 01/12/2010 01:00:12 AM 1260 Views
while i miss hopper RAAM - 02/12/2010 04:19:28 AM 1052 Views
Re: while i miss hopper saangrealsmoker - 02/12/2010 05:30:52 PM 1159 Views
Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/12/2010 02:32:10 PM 965 Views
Re: Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. Lo'oris - 03/12/2010 03:10:54 PM 1007 Views
It would be awesome if it were, though. BlackAdder - 03/12/2010 04:41:42 PM 1131 Views
Re: It would be awesome if it were, though. saangrealsmoker - 04/12/2010 09:54:09 PM 1116 Views
Hopper Aes Sedai - 05/12/2010 07:07:44 AM 971 Views
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