Yes, of course, why didn't I think of blaming myself for the way the timeline has been butchered and crudely stuck back together? It's obviously my fault that Brandon chose to write it the way he did.
The whole story was horribly messed up. We get POV's from characters who are obviously not where we expect them to be after reading TGS with no explanation as to what is going on. The timeline chops and changes between chapters and POV's so much that you end up with little idea of what is happening when. The visions the three ta'veren have of each other is an attempt to keep things in perspective but they could have been made much more clear, there were some obscure visions in there that gave little clue as to when the characters were in relation to each other.
And I wouldn't call anyone who comes to a fan site a casual reader. People who look online for discussion boards have more than a passing interest in the books and also had prior information about how the novels were going to be structured. Coming into TOM cold without having heard anything about how Brandon had chosen to split things up or that the timelines were going to be seriously out of sync during most of the book is confusing. Going back to Perrin, at the end of TGS Tam is with Rand and during their conversation mentions the queen and the Whitecloaks. When we join Perrin in TOM he isn't where we expect him to be from this conversation. There are no Whitecloaks, Morgase hasn't revealed herself and he's wading through the muck while reverting back to whingeing about being Lord Perrin. I don't agree that it's the smooth, sensible transition that the OP said it was (which is what I originally disagreed with BTW, I wasn't bashing Brandon for the way he chose to write it, I was simply disagreeing with the OP's point of view which clashes with my own). After the long story arcs with Rand and Egwene in TGS I think that the switch to jumping aruond in the different timelines is very noticeable, distracting and confusing when you weren't expecting it.
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The whole story was horribly messed up. We get POV's from characters who are obviously not where we expect them to be after reading TGS with no explanation as to what is going on. The timeline chops and changes between chapters and POV's so much that you end up with little idea of what is happening when. The visions the three ta'veren have of each other is an attempt to keep things in perspective but they could have been made much more clear, there were some obscure visions in there that gave little clue as to when the characters were in relation to each other.
And I wouldn't call anyone who comes to a fan site a casual reader. People who look online for discussion boards have more than a passing interest in the books and also had prior information about how the novels were going to be structured. Coming into TOM cold without having heard anything about how Brandon had chosen to split things up or that the timelines were going to be seriously out of sync during most of the book is confusing. Going back to Perrin, at the end of TGS Tam is with Rand and during their conversation mentions the queen and the Whitecloaks. When we join Perrin in TOM he isn't where we expect him to be from this conversation. There are no Whitecloaks, Morgase hasn't revealed herself and he's wading through the muck while reverting back to whingeing about being Lord Perrin. I don't agree that it's the smooth, sensible transition that the OP said it was (which is what I originally disagreed with BTW, I wasn't bashing Brandon for the way he chose to write it, I was simply disagreeing with the OP's point of view which clashes with my own). After the long story arcs with Rand and Egwene in TGS I think that the switch to jumping aruond in the different timelines is very noticeable, distracting and confusing when you weren't expecting it.
C xx
/tGS: These are damned good books.
27/11/2010 02:22:05 AM
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meh. ToM sucked for me. after tGS, I had become a bit hopeful, but now I see ...
27/11/2010 03:39:49 AM
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Disagree strongly on the time line issue - TOM showed what a mistake splitting by 'clusters' was IMO
27/11/2010 07:24:55 AM
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Re: Disagree strongly on the time line issue - TOM showed what a mistake splitting by 'clusters' was
27/11/2010 05:59:47 PM
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Splitting it this way was the only realistic choice
29/11/2010 01:58:52 PM
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Disagree - plus COT lacked almost anything full stop
30/11/2010 12:03:24 AM
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It will be better than CoT, sure, but still not good enough to appease most fans
30/11/2010 06:20:38 PM
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BS style
27/11/2010 07:25:38 AM
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That's the thing! If it was in its normal, Jordan paced writing, ...
27/11/2010 08:52:05 AM
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Re: That's the thing! If it was in its normal, Jordan paced writing, ...
27/11/2010 11:57:22 PM
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Sin?! What, Jordan is a god now? Some flawless divine figure of fantasy writing? Puh-leaze!
28/11/2010 04:29:54 AM
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And you know how RJ would've outlined the books from where?
28/11/2010 05:07:31 AM
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Re: And you know how RJ would've outlined the books from where?
29/11/2010 08:16:12 AM
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My only problems are Mats sudden drop in literacy and the timeline. *NM*
27/11/2010 11:51:25 AM
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Not so much
27/11/2010 09:52:23 PM
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Have some question
28/11/2010 05:38:42 AM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 05:54:10 PM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 06:19:30 PM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 06:50:40 PM
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Re: Have some question
28/11/2010 07:01:38 PM
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Re: Have some question
29/11/2010 09:13:17 AM
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Exactly my feeling on TGS, but I do think ToM inferior to it (though still good).
28/11/2010 02:55:53 PM
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Re: Exactly my feeling on TGS, but I do think ToM inferior to it (though still good).
28/11/2010 03:04:57 PM
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Right, it's good, but could be better (or it could be better, but is still good).
28/11/2010 03:12:15 PM
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Re: Exactly my feeling on TGS, but I do think ToM inferior to it (though still good).
29/11/2010 12:55:40 AM
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Radically different perspectives, it seems; I bet you don't even like leggy blondes.
29/11/2010 01:11:16 PM
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"Reading" TGS &ToM in audio format and just weeks apart made them work better together. *NM*
29/11/2010 07:48:51 PM
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I agree. Also, chopping up the timelines was the best decision given the circumstances.
01/12/2010 02:02:07 PM
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Re: I agree. Also, chopping up the timelines was the best decision given the circumstances.
01/12/2010 02:31:46 PM
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Re: I agree. Also, chopping up the timelines was the best decision given the circumstances.
01/12/2010 08:17:57 PM
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