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Well Marshall Send a noteboard - 26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM
An author consistently uses the same narrative voice, plot devices and style of writing for 11 books. SUDDENLY, when a new author takes over, major players start acting out of character, performing actions they never would have earlier, and scenes pop up that don't fit the storyline nearly as well. The Graendal scene is one such as those. Aran'gar acted like a Novice, Graendal spoke out-of-place thoughts aloud, and the entire Graendal mystery was convoluted, out of place, and the timing was odd as well.

Do I think RJ intended to have Graendal escape an attack from Rand? Maybe to probably. Do I think BS came up with how? Probably.

There's no doubt that BS wrote the scene, and there's no doubt that he came up with the details surrounding the events. It' not all that difficult to pick out RJ's writings from BS's. It's a little harder to pick out who came up with what plot scenario--not the words, but the ideas--but it's not impossible. The Graendal scene may have been designed by RJ as a means to indicate how far into madness and despair Rand had fallen--but the way in which it was done was most definitely BS, and I did not approve. It was belittling to the readers and to the characters.
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What was the purpose of Graendal?! - 25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM 1569 Views
BS wanted to put her behind a "complicated" plot - 25/11/2010 04:11:01 PM 836 Views
Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm - 25/11/2010 04:19:02 PM 773 Views
read DomA's review. BullShit ruined the series. *NM* - 25/11/2010 04:31:56 PM 386 Views
Links or it didn't happen. - 25/11/2010 04:53:24 PM 717 Views
oh but, bookwyrm, now they have such a nice easy scapegoat!! *NM* - 26/11/2010 01:35:53 AM 328 Views
And DomA is such infallible authority on the all things WoT why? *NM* - 25/11/2010 06:00:42 PM 360 Views
I'd say that DomA is one of the most thoughtful posters here. He researches his comments and gives - 25/11/2010 06:47:58 PM 751 Views
You got me wrong - 25/11/2010 07:11:43 PM 867 Views
That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes - 26/11/2010 01:33:08 AM 659 Views
Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes - 26/11/2010 03:47:38 PM 686 Views
Okay, what would you have had him do? - 27/11/2010 01:54:19 AM 591 Views
Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 02:58:55 AM 752 Views
Re: Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 07:56:38 PM 729 Views
Re: Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 11:52:53 PM 582 Views
Sorry, Dominic, but I strongly disagree. - 28/11/2010 05:30:28 AM 600 Views
Re: Okay, what would you have had him do? - 27/11/2010 06:02:22 PM 555 Views
clearly the timeline is wonky, but it's easy enough to keep track of - 04/12/2010 05:32:34 PM 758 Views
A minor aside - 26/11/2010 02:49:03 PM 575 Views
oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM* - 26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM 307 Views
Meh, even that is pretty ridiculous - 26/11/2010 06:32:20 PM 543 Views
Well - 26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM 595 Views
Lots - 25/11/2010 04:38:52 PM 806 Views
Re: Lots - 25/11/2010 04:53:38 PM 657 Views
What is the point of anything then? - 25/11/2010 05:01:15 PM 800 Views
Re: What is the point of anything then? - 25/11/2010 05:07:30 PM 677 Views
Re: What is the point of anything then? - 25/11/2010 05:11:15 PM 710 Views
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 06:22:31 PM 706 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 06:34:57 PM 654 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 08:43:38 PM 654 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 08:47:10 PM 651 Views
I imagine it is both. - 25/11/2010 11:37:21 PM 671 Views
No, it wasn't obvious. - 26/11/2010 03:25:09 AM 581 Views
Well, it was after I read it. - 26/11/2010 02:03:20 PM 634 Views
Yes, she was useless to this storyline. - 25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM 716 Views
If it hadn't been Graendal, it WOULD have been rather contrived... - 26/11/2010 01:35:12 AM 555 Views
Well, we were under the impression that Moridin alone had access to the True Power. - 26/11/2010 02:36:31 AM 774 Views
I was under the impression other Forsaken had access as well, something pointed out by their POVs .. - 27/11/2010 09:09:17 AM 576 Views
No, only Moridin - 27/11/2010 06:43:17 PM 554 Views
Please. - 26/11/2010 03:16:36 AM 677 Views
Hmm? - 26/11/2010 06:56:01 AM 602 Views
NM *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:29:40 AM 357 Views

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