Agree.
I can't say this ever bugged me. I always assumed it was an ability of fades.
It makes zero sense that it is a true power weave that allows direct concious control of rats.
Yet another example of channel-babel to over explain something that doesn't need it
Yikes. But he was bound by it, he just had moments of freedom. He was active during the Trolloc wars and during Hawkwing and we know that he contacted the Black Ajah but we don't really know how much freedom he had. So no, I definitely had no clue that he wasn't bound.
Well, they would have to want to. Ishamael might have had better things to do than supply the Shadow with thousands upon thousands of rats.
I think it's more credible that Myrddraals are behind the Shadow's eyes than that a True Power channelers are.
I can't say this ever bugged me. I always assumed it was an ability of fades.
It makes zero sense that it is a true power weave that allows direct concious control of rats.
Yet another example of channel-babel to over explain something that doesn't need it
Did you know that Ishamael is one of the Forsaken? Did you know that he was not bound in the Bore?
Yikes. But he was bound by it, he just had moments of freedom. He was active during the Trolloc wars and during Hawkwing and we know that he contacted the Black Ajah but we don't really know how much freedom he had. So no, I definitely had no clue that he wasn't bound.
Plus, Graendal tells us that the this particular weave is very easy to use on rats and ravens, for some reason. We don't know the full effect on the weave on them, but we can speculate that one Forsaken can easily manipulate tons of rats if he/she wanted.
Well, they would have to want to. Ishamael might have had better things to do than supply the Shadow with thousands upon thousands of rats.
As for what Uno told us - it maybe true, maybe not, since Uno has no idea about strength of Forsaken and what they can do.
I think it's more credible that Myrddraals are behind the Shadow's eyes than that a True Power channelers are.
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What was the purpose of Graendal?!
25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM
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BS wanted to put her behind a "complicated" plot
25/11/2010 04:11:01 PM
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Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm
25/11/2010 04:19:02 PM
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read DomA's review. BullShit ruined the series. *NM*
25/11/2010 04:31:56 PM
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Links or it didn't happen.
25/11/2010 04:53:24 PM
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oh but, bookwyrm, now they have such a nice easy scapegoat!! *NM*
26/11/2010 01:35:53 AM
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And DomA is such infallible authority on the all things WoT why? *NM*
25/11/2010 06:00:42 PM
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I'd say that DomA is one of the most thoughtful posters here. He researches his comments and gives
25/11/2010 06:47:58 PM
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That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 01:33:08 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 03:47:38 PM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
26/11/2010 09:40:54 PM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 12:22:02 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 06:08:15 AM
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Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes
27/11/2010 04:54:00 PM
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Okay, what would you have had him do?
27/11/2010 01:54:19 AM
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Interesting question.
27/11/2010 02:58:55 AM
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Re: Okay, what would you have had him do?
27/11/2010 06:02:22 PM
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clearly the timeline is wonky, but it's easy enough to keep track of
04/12/2010 05:32:34 PM
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A minor aside
26/11/2010 02:49:03 PM
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oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM*
26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM
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because he's right on this account. This book was a trainwreck *NM*
26/11/2010 05:11:01 AM
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It's pacing and editing was bad, I see and agree on that. But the story overall was great.
27/11/2010 09:21:02 AM
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Re: Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm
25/11/2010 04:45:12 PM
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RJ was set on it being one book hoping he could finish it before he died *NM*
25/11/2010 05:45:07 PM
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Do you honestly think Jordan would have kept that "promise" if he were still alive? Seriously ...
27/11/2010 09:01:49 AM
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that's a pretty poor argument for showing BS as messing everything up
26/11/2010 01:29:16 AM
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Re: that's a pretty poor argument for showing BS as messing everything up
26/11/2010 10:45:51 AM
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Well
26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM
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I have no doubt at all that RJ laid out the idea of Graendal being discovered and escaping
04/12/2010 07:07:14 PM
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Lots
25/11/2010 04:38:52 PM
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Re: Lots
25/11/2010 04:53:38 PM
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What is the point of anything then?
25/11/2010 05:01:15 PM
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I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 05:58:19 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 06:22:31 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 06:34:57 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 08:43:38 PM
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Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style"
25/11/2010 08:47:10 PM
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Yes, she was useless to this storyline.
25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM
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If it hadn't been Graendal, it WOULD have been rather contrived...
26/11/2010 01:35:12 AM
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Well, we were under the impression that Moridin alone had access to the True Power.
26/11/2010 02:36:31 AM
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I was under the impression other Forsaken had access as well, something pointed out by their POVs ..
27/11/2010 09:09:17 AM
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