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I agree with part of what you are saying darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 22/11/2010 11:02:34 PM
During the battle, she was in a secret room that she had created in the Tower's Dream Shadow giving orders. She created an illusion weave to make one of the Black Ajah look like her. Then she captured Egwene by surprise attack and brought her to the secret holding area. She really didn't do much nor was anything she did that impressive. I liked the scene personally, but let me know if you could indicate something that she did that was so powerful and beyond the scope of the other Forsaken we've seen fight in the dreamworld. It just seemed to me that she hung out, swooped in to take her prey to her secret place and then got beat at her own game.


Sshe also attacked Egwene's will directly which is something we haven't seen. It's actually a smart strategy for Mesaana since she's trapped in the Tower thanks to the Dream Spike and she obviously believes she's got more willpower than an 18 year old girl. Being wrong is a whole other story :)

That's my point - Moghedien uses her willpower to avoid detection, and this is what enables her to gather so much information. We also saw her rip Birgitte from the Dream, but in general, the way she uses T'A'R fits her nature - she wants to hide and would rather initiate a surprise attack and vanish than stay and fight. My point boils down to the fact that Moghedien doesn't want to fight at all preferring an easy victory by subterfuge so fighting her is different.


In this way Moggy is no different than Mesaana ... she played to her own perceived strengths. Mesaana should be more like Moghedien in her approach, but instead tries to be bold and fails.

I think Moghedien used that term because your belief in them bound your will to make them act the way they did in the real world. Being "bound" by an a'dam, for example, made Moghedien immediately think she couldn't channel and rather than marshal the willpower to defeat it as Egwene did, she simply gave up.


But she used the OP to removed Birgitte from the Horn ... not TAR ability.
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Agreed, still my favorite scene. - 23/11/2010 11:13:50 PM 513 Views
Nynaeve is stronger than Moghedien, so they're not dead even. - 22/11/2010 06:55:56 PM 884 Views
It may simply come down to the fact that Moghedien uses T'A'R for different purposes - 22/11/2010 07:01:51 PM 639 Views
I agree with Sidious - 22/11/2010 09:15:59 PM 627 Views
But, if you look at the scene, Mesaana didn't really do anything. - 22/11/2010 10:18:14 PM 688 Views
I agree with part of what you are saying - 22/11/2010 11:02:34 PM 654 Views
Moghedian never fought. She won all her "fights" in one shot. - 22/11/2010 10:57:08 PM 837 Views
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