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In his mind, at least, Rand was defeated by the Seanchan in TPoD. Joel Send a noteboard - 20/11/2010 01:35:24 PM
Lews never was defeated. He would never have let himself be defeated, but I think Rand needs to let himself be defeated in order to trick (probably Moridin) into using Callandor to kill him. Thus because of the 'defect' in Callandor the bore will be sealed. If Moridin uses the true source with Callandor to kill Rand there should be no backlash to the one power.

It will not be through a "typical heroic act" that the DO will be defeated, but through humility.

IIRC, that's how we know LTT was never defeated: Because he says so in angry denial of that campaigns outcome. In reality the sides fought each other to a savage and costly stalemate, but Rand counted it as a defeat, and LTT seemed to agree.
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