Namely because Nynaeve's POV reports something otherwise when she faced Moghedien in The Shadow Rising.
Moghedien sliced Nynaeve's hardened air attack, and then replied with a complex weave of Compulsion. What is noteworthy is that Nynaeve reported feeling ecstasy and a desire to serve BEFORE she could slice the flows. Slicing only takes a moment, being very simple, and even if Nynaeve's isn't that skilled with it, the fact that she reported the weave affecting her before she had a moment to slice it implies that the Compulsion weave is not straightforward like a fireball, and it is possible to be ready to counterattack and have your defensive measure fail because you are affected by the Compulsion weave.
It is possible that the actual weave sets the conditions for the subjects mind to be receptive to hypnotic suggestions before the flows themselves settle around the person's body. This may be why "Holding the Power protects one from Compulsion" - it may not have anything to do with some inherent protection channeling gives, rather than the possibility to recognize what the weave is and lash out or slice it before it is given a chance to settle.
Moghedien sliced Nynaeve's hardened air attack, and then replied with a complex weave of Compulsion. What is noteworthy is that Nynaeve reported feeling ecstasy and a desire to serve BEFORE she could slice the flows. Slicing only takes a moment, being very simple, and even if Nynaeve's isn't that skilled with it, the fact that she reported the weave affecting her before she had a moment to slice it implies that the Compulsion weave is not straightforward like a fireball, and it is possible to be ready to counterattack and have your defensive measure fail because you are affected by the Compulsion weave.
It is possible that the actual weave sets the conditions for the subjects mind to be receptive to hypnotic suggestions before the flows themselves settle around the person's body. This may be why "Holding the Power protects one from Compulsion" - it may not have anything to do with some inherent protection channeling gives, rather than the possibility to recognize what the weave is and lash out or slice it before it is given a chance to settle.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power
12/09/2009 09:27:20 PM
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The Big White Book says...
12/09/2009 11:46:43 PM
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Not Aginor
13/09/2009 08:36:37 AM
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Re: Not Aginor
13/09/2009 03:16:13 PM
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Re: Not Aginor
13/09/2009 05:47:14 PM
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Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy
13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM
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But, RJ himself said that the BWB was written from the standpoint of a scholar
14/09/2009 04:42:59 PM
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It all depends on how you define "powerful"
14/09/2009 02:30:31 AM
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So is graendal similar to lanfear then?
13/09/2009 05:41:42 PM
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Graendal could fight Lanfear and win
13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM
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Graendal herself says...
13/09/2009 09:08:46 PM
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Lanfear was more powerful than Graendal, but Cyndane has less power
13/09/2009 10:19:35 PM
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Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then?
13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM
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Compulsion=any other deadly weave. Doesn't really change matters
13/09/2009 10:23:40 PM
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But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM*
13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM
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Not at all
14/09/2009 04:51:48 AM
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Using Compulsion on someone doesn't seem mechanically different
14/09/2009 09:03:41 PM
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I don't agree.
15/09/2009 04:33:04 PM
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But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM*
13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM
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Apparently only the third time counts
*NM*
13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM
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But the third time's supposed to be lucky. So that won't count either. *NM*
13/09/2009 11:26:18 PM
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Really?
13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM
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No falsely...
13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM
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And, of course, the male and female OP strength ranks might not even correlate that much
14/09/2009 04:41:58 PM
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They correlate on some critical points
14/09/2009 06:57:43 PM
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That's not exactly what I'm referring to.
15/09/2009 04:36:29 PM
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But then we are discussing the same thing
15/09/2009 06:59:04 PM
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I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers
16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM
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Probably
16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM
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I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael
14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM
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I do think Ishamel is special
14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM
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He's special the same way any individual is special.
14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special.
15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special.
15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM
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Re: He's special the same way any individual is special.
15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM
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The more interesting question is...
14/09/2009 06:34:11 PM
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Hmmm
14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM
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I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar.
14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM
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Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM*
14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM
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Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree!
14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM
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They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks
14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM
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I've never underestimated Graendal
14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM
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Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too.
14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM
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To me, she is the most lethal.
15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM
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I still like Lanfear more
15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM
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Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien
15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM
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Agreed
15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM
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Ummm... how do we know?
15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
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