If that power is needed to survive, how will those she takes it from survive?
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 09:23:15 PM
It's not necessarily that what they're doing is wrong, but rather that the presentation is hypocritical. It's not much of a difference between Elayne or Colavaere seizing the Sun Throne. In fact, Colavaere did this a fair while ago, Elayne does it at the eve of the Last Battle. If order in Cairhien was the goal, then wouldn't an established monarch with months to prepare be better than one with only days?
Cairhien would have fought in the Last Battle anyway. They've been fighting for Rand going on months now. That wouldn't suddenly change. And frankly, the idea of the Shadow invading Andor through Cairhien if that country falls is pretty silly because both their armies - Andoran and Cairhienin - should be fighting further north anyway. If Trollocs get to Cairhien or Andor, then neither country should really have the forces to stop them anyway.
And what about the part where she wanted to start a war with the Two Rivers because despite the fact that Andor hasn't ruled it in generations, maps still claim that area as part of Andor? Starting a war with one of the Light's champions as the Shadow grips the land, because of what? Morgase said that the Two Rivers hasn't seen a tax collector in generations, but Elayne sent one. What changed? The fact that it was suddenly prosperous? The fact that it could now be used to increase Elayne's power and influence?
Cairhien would have fought in the Last Battle anyway. They've been fighting for Rand going on months now. That wouldn't suddenly change. And frankly, the idea of the Shadow invading Andor through Cairhien if that country falls is pretty silly because both their armies - Andoran and Cairhienin - should be fighting further north anyway. If Trollocs get to Cairhien or Andor, then neither country should really have the forces to stop them anyway.
And what about the part where she wanted to start a war with the Two Rivers because despite the fact that Andor hasn't ruled it in generations, maps still claim that area as part of Andor? Starting a war with one of the Light's champions as the Shadow grips the land, because of what? Morgase said that the Two Rivers hasn't seen a tax collector in generations, but Elayne sent one. What changed? The fact that it was suddenly prosperous? The fact that it could now be used to increase Elayne's power and influence?
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This message last edited by Fanatic-Templar on 09/11/2010 at 09:23:42 PM
So about the nobility.
09/11/2010 06:53:34 AM
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Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me.
09/11/2010 08:27:26 AM
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I don't have any problems with this - they are trying to get more power to survive.
09/11/2010 04:08:22 PM
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If that power is needed to survive, how will those she takes it from survive?
09/11/2010 09:23:15 PM
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I disagree
09/11/2010 07:28:39 PM
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Re: I disagree
09/11/2010 09:29:11 PM
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Re: I disagree
10/11/2010 12:30:33 AM
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Re: I disagree
10/11/2010 01:07:19 AM
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Yes, of course...
10/11/2010 01:36:30 AM
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If you can stay on subject, yes.
10/11/2010 03:22:49 AM
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*Scratches head*
09/11/2010 10:59:29 PM
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Re: *Scratches head*
09/11/2010 11:50:00 PM
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Damn...
10/11/2010 01:27:28 AM
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