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It was you who brought up that silly Real World kitchen example, silly. Mik Send a noteboard - 25/10/2010 10:55:29 AM
Nor do I condone the things you say I do. Don't take me from fantasy world stuff and come back to serious real-world issues; at least sci-fi is intended to comment on the present day. Yeah, my analogy isn't perfect, but time was too precious to hunt for a perfect one.
Hang on a minute! Your (real world kitchen/bad contractor) 'analogy' just didn't make any sense. YOU made a real-world reference Mr. Fantasy World. Now you start crying about me doing it in reaction to yours just to show how wrong yours was? Was that an Aes Sedai Kitchen Building Contractor? Or a Trolloc?
It's just so funny, if you're a sucker for irony!

And what's that about "nor condoning the things you say I do"? In my own example I made -me- the one setting fire to a building. Relax man. I was just explaining how wrong you were, by using a similar analogy to yours, using the same terms you used to reply to Cannoli (the "Puh-leeeze, u r so wroonnngggg" road).

And as a very flawed analogy -but so appropriate here-; If you can't stand the heat, make a better kitchen! Hehehe!


Does it change your interpretation of things that the DO is *intended* to come in and wreck things? That the Grand Plan intends for the DO to break in over and over and over?
You were advocating that noone can be blamed, but the Creator. I pointed out that each time it's humans (and probably all channelers to boot) making the wrong choices, -caused by wanting ever more power, greed, curiousity, pride, etc- that causes the DO to break through his prison.


Please note, Mr. Strident-Pants, that I never even said that it's a horrible deal
That's why you referred to the Creators work (the Wheel) as a lousy build kitchen, right? Ohh.. strident-pants! Thanks. Better then being caught with your pants down, newyorky!


I "simply said" that if Cannoli is going to justify the Children's attitude towards channelers, you might as well put the blame where it really belongs.
Yeah. And you "simply saying" was going like "PUH-leeeeze", while the Children of the Light are actually closer to the mark then you are! As you can see in my previous reply, it have been channelers that made the Bore (and thus let Evil into creation), that it's a channeler who Betrayed all Hope (Elan Morin's choice) and that it's channelers again that started the event that resulted in the Breaking of the World (Lews Therin & his "Hundred" channeling buddies).

The big mistake the Children of the Light did make there, was project these -mostly- individual choices on the whole group! I can understand their misguided belief though, since it have been channelers as a group that have been going berserk on the poor world ever since. The Children overreacted dramatically by adding the females to the equation.

Your idea of "it's all the Creator His fault due to his bad kitchen-designing skills and you can't blame anyone for making bad choices" is totally missing RJ's point about people having a will of their own and having a choice. It's all about making the right choice!


You're not arguing against the Children having hate for anybody, and you say people deserve the blame for opening a door that they had no warning lead to horrible horrible evil. So the Children should hate all humankind?
Don't put words on my mouth I never wrote/ spoke please. You're overreacting and exagerating dramatically here. The Children don't hate 'all humandkind'. You're steering away from what you orignally posted at lightning-speed, because you were dead-wrong and don't understand what RJ's story is all about;

Having a choice and making the right ones.
And even if fate decides to give you nothing but hard choices, to still choose and pick the right one and 'face what your choice brings on your feet'.

When you say "it doesn't matter and you can't blame anyone because that's what the Creator wants", you're totally missing the point.
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
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