All the characters live in a world where the DO is bound to get loose and make everything horrible. And this will happen over and over again no matter what. The Shadow's stain on normal life even happens in turnings of the Wheel in which there isn't any channeling. So really, the Children should be blaming the Creator himself for the threat of the Shadow. That would make sense.
It was human error of judgement, overcome by curiosity and a search for ever more power that resulted in the drilling of the Bore (Beidomon & Mierin representing Pandora). It was a human choice -Elan Morin who willingly and by his own choice betrayed humanity's Hope-, by giving himself to Shai'tan. It was human pride (Lews Therin) that resulated in the Tainting of the True Source.
You're saying Global Warming (and everything else for that matter) is all to be blamed on the Universe itself, because of how the Universe works and how it's Nature's Laws themselves that result in whatever anyone chooses to do or not do. You're willing to set aside every action by anyone, regardless of concequences because of the Way of the World...
Grow up; it's how concious beings with a choice how to act within those Laws decide to act. If I set fire to a buidling, it's not the fire and how Natural Law has it functioning that is to be blamed if it kills everyone inside.
It's all me.
Blaming the channelers for unleashing the DO is like having a house built by lousy contractors, then blaming your slightly overweight friend for sitting on your kitchen counter and it breaking apart. Yes, the friend's weight and choice of seats caused the actual destruction to occur, but the contractors are the people who set the whole situation up with their incompetent behavior and choices. Most reasonable folks want to put the blame where it's due; unreasonable ones want it to go anywhere - especially anywhere that absolves their own errors and omissions.
Your analogy is flawed, because the Creator didn't create a 'lousy house'. He built a good house, locking away all that could harm it (Evil/ Shai'tan) outside the house. It's (some of) the inhabitants who broke it as I explained above; it's men's choice, pride, lust for more Power & curiousity that broke the If anything, blaming anyone - even the Creator - for the Shadow's appearance is a waste of time. Why? Because it misses the point that they still have to fight an incredible and difficult battle.
Puh-leeze right back at you! Mierin and Beidomon made a bad choice. Beidomon knew it, Mierin didn't care. Lews Therin did have a hand in why the Source was Tainted. He realizes full-well it was his overconfidence & pride that doomed all male channelers and the world. And RJ wants us to realize that too, judging by how often Lews Therin ponders about that.
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'
Death dances in my footsteps....
Death dances in my footsteps....
The Children of the Light and the White Tower
- 20/10/2010 08:32:10 PM
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- 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM
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Re: The Children of the Light and the White Tower
- 20/10/2010 08:58:12 PM
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The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 20/10/2010 09:05:55 PM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 12:15:48 AM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 02:59:49 PM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 04:35:00 PM
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And farmers are, of course, treated the same as rebel officers and usurpers and mutineers.
- 23/10/2010 03:07:10 PM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 21/10/2010 07:55:06 PM
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And there is no indication of how far that went.
- 23/10/2010 03:12:42 PM
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"The question" as opposed to "questioning"
- 24/10/2010 06:21:43 PM
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And that would indicate everyone does it, if it is so commonly used, so how are the CoL worse? *NM*
- 25/10/2010 01:14:13 AM
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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards.
- 24/10/2010 06:53:19 AM
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The utter stupidity of this statement caught my eye...
- 24/10/2010 08:12:58 AM
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Your analyses and extension of concepts always brings that "utter stupidity" phrase to my mind.
- 25/10/2010 02:17:10 AM
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Huh? ... what !! ... are you mad?
- 21/10/2010 05:05:16 PM
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Did you forget the very first PoV Darkfriend in the series?
- 23/10/2010 03:27:25 PM
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Difference being the whitecloaks who were ordered to do it were not DFs. All the AS evil deeds
- 23/10/2010 07:55:23 PM
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So similar scenes in the Cairhienin civil war were all the work of Darkfriends?
- 25/10/2010 02:25:57 AM
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Please provide an example of a DF AS committing an atrocity and not being punished by the Tower
- 25/10/2010 03:34:46 AM
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Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:..
- 25/10/2010 09:28:10 AM
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Re: Just one? Here's a list from the top of my head in 60 secs:..
- 25/10/2010 04:14:05 PM
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Not to mention it's not like any of these have been without repercussion!
- 25/10/2010 04:50:39 PM
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Re: Not to mention it's not like any of these have been without repercussion!
- 27/10/2010 01:06:53 PM
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You under some delusion that I'm defending the AS
- 27/10/2010 08:29:14 PM
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No. I'm pointing out you are under the delusion that AS pay for their atrocities.
- 28/10/2010 09:16:38 AM
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okay, so AS never Still and execute AS for doing stuff ... have you read the series?
- 28/10/2010 05:20:28 PM
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That doesn't make the -unpunished- atrocities disappear, you know. Your point is lame AND moot.
- 28/10/2010 07:07:27 PM
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Re: That doesn't make the -unpunished- atrocities disappear, you know. Your point is lame AND moot.
- 28/10/2010 07:09:33 PM
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To echo Darius...
- 23/10/2010 08:34:00 PM
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Re: To echo Darius...
- 25/10/2010 10:03:14 AM
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Go look up the definition of the word atrocity
- 25/10/2010 04:53:55 PM
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Their implicit role in the genocide of Manetheren was probable their greatest atrocity *NM*
- 26/10/2010 03:01:01 AM
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You mean the act that got Tetsuan deposed, Stilled and sentenced to hard labor until she gave up the
- 26/10/2010 04:19:45 AM
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Ya, the ultimated punishment of cleaning pots and floors 
NOOOOOOOO!!!
- 26/10/2010 11:59:51 PM
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NOOOOOOOO!!!
- 26/10/2010 11:59:51 PM
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Maybe you should have done that yourself: "behaviour or an action that is wicked or ruthless"
- 27/10/2010 11:11:30 AM
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the fact that you can't differentiate between the extermination of an entire village
- 27/10/2010 08:30:12 PM
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READ; I *did* differentiate between them. It doesn't change the fact all are atrocious deeds
- 28/10/2010 09:00:56 AM
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- 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM
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- 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM
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You asked for atrocities and you got them. Now you just don't know what to do with them.
- 28/10/2010 06:49:16 PM
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- 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM
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dude, you gave us a list of petty crimes and compared it to mass murder
- 28/10/2010 06:59:33 PM
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Complete the thought...
- 28/10/2010 07:11:37 PM
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seems I must do so for this guy to understand ... and I'm not holding my breath on that!
- 28/10/2010 08:24:57 PM
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Rape, murder, starting wars and doing noting about them, kidnap / severe torture of prisoners... *NM*
- 28/10/2010 07:51:33 PM
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again you fail to note that the AS have systems in place to prevent these things
- 28/10/2010 08:23:32 PM
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Again you fail to note that the AS haven't used those "systems" of theirs
- 28/10/2010 09:02:15 PM
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What wars did they start?
- 28/10/2010 08:56:46 PM
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You should be an Aes Sedai; the way you can twist truth would scare Siuan.
- 28/10/2010 09:07:24 PM
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- 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM
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Take your own advice, please
- 28/10/2010 07:30:51 PM
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Come on. Just say it. Real men don't act like catty, bitchy women. *NM*
- 20/10/2010 11:14:49 PM
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"Rightly hold responsible for the threat of the Shadow?" Puh-leeze
- 21/10/2010 12:06:34 AM
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Puh-leeze right back at you:
- 21/10/2010 08:24:12 AM
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The Wheel was created so the DO could break in. The Creator plays his game with the DO thru people
- 21/10/2010 01:45:07 PM
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It was you who brought up that silly Real World kitchen example, silly.
- 25/10/2010 10:55:29 AM
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I could say you zinged me, but you're just bent on silliness. Bored now. *NM*
- 25/10/2010 10:54:41 PM
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Your personal theories do not constitute evidence, and your aberrant logic better supports MY case
- 21/10/2010 03:21:44 PM
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Objection, your honor! Bringing evidentiary rules into this is asinine! *NM*
- 21/10/2010 11:22:19 PM
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The word "evidence" is not exclusive to the practice of jurisprudence
- 23/10/2010 03:31:57 PM
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Rational thinking. Well, you use the word "deserved" in all caps. Nuff said. *NM*
- 23/10/2010 04:55:02 PM
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Emphasis means nothing one way or another as far as rationality goes, which you would know...
- 25/10/2010 01:13:23 AM
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You know zilch about my acquaintances. "mk" was wrong - you're not an idiot. But you are ignorable. *NM*
- 25/10/2010 10:57:04 PM
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- 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM
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Not so sure about that
- 21/10/2010 02:29:02 AM
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the city is closed to WC
- 21/10/2010 04:01:45 AM
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Re: the city is closed to WC
- 21/10/2010 04:55:45 AM
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But that is irrelevant. Aes Sedai can also go to Amadicia in disguise. *NM*
- 21/10/2010 05:35:18 AM
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But they aren't in disguise
- 21/10/2010 08:31:38 AM
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They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise.
- 21/10/2010 09:08:25 PM
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Re: They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise.
- 22/10/2010 02:10:07 PM
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CotL are welcome in Tar Valon to have a drink. Aes Sedai are hanged when found in Amadicia..
- 21/10/2010 08:33:03 AM
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Now hang on a minute!
- 21/10/2010 07:28:45 AM
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Re: Now hang on a minute!
- 21/10/2010 10:49:34 AM
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it would be an interesting comparison if they weren't completely different organizations
- 21/10/2010 04:09:31 PM
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