Moridin was responsible for Hanlon and Shiaine being together
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 25/09/2010 11:24:16 PM
Moghedien's the one who brought Daved Hanlon to Shiaine when it was decided to infiltrate Elayne's inner circle.
I don't think so ... he's merely been selected as an assassin for Elayne, or so he thinks, and who would delight more in filling his head with possibilities of "romping" Elayne ... Cyndane would enjoy that
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Maybe, in spite of all the promises that he could romp a queen, he had been placed where he was so he could kill her at some selected moment, when her death would bring some specific result sought by Shiaine. Or rather by the Chosen who had given her her orders. Moridin, the fellow was called, a name Hanlon had never heard before coming to this house.
There are a few indirect ties too, for instance it's mostly her pawns in Elayne's dungeons, and it's someone Elayne knew to be linked to Moghedien (Ispan) who got killed. It's another woman associated with her which was discovered and lead Elayne to Shiaine's house (I still believe Hanlon and that BA were baits. Elayne was meant to discover them).
It would seem a weird call to make Cyndane Moridin's Forsaken agent in this storyline, while sending Moghedien to deal with Perrin.
At least Moghedien already got involved in Mat's story line in Ebou Dar, if terribly indirectly with him.
It would seem a weird call to make Cyndane Moridin's Forsaken agent in this storyline, while sending Moghedien to deal with Perrin.
At least Moghedien already got involved in Mat's story line in Ebou Dar, if terribly indirectly with him.
This all makes sense to me
Lanfear knows Perrin (and to a lesser extent Mat), already messed up with his dreams before. She's also already Moonhunter to the wolves. Moridin may also not want her to discover what Moghedien (and no doubt him now) knows: Elayne loves Rand and intended to marry him. There's no doubt he's the father of her babies. Cyndane might kill her on sight, if she knew. Neither of the pets can be sent near Rand: Cyndane will kill him, and Moghedien can't be trusted to restrain herself anywhere near Nynaeve.
Yet the only time we've seen Cyndane on her own was just prior to the Cleansing ... and she was talking to a Noble ... which sounds more like she's meddling with Elayne's world.
I agree that it would be foolish to have Cyndane go after the mother of Rand's children, but she probably learned her lesson on freaking out and trying to kill Rand's lovers
Not to mention Moridin is perverse enough to mess with her on this ... what if he had forbidden her from killing Elayne until Rand knew of the Babies?? ... On the flip side, the argument can be made that sending Moghedien after Perrin is the best way to keep her from moving toward personal goals. She hates Elayne too.We also still don't know why Moghedien sent some (others decided to join them there after Moghedien vanished) of her BA to Caemlyn.
For the most part I just assumed she sent them off to hunt either Nynaeve and Elayne, or to go search for objects of the Power. She sent them all over the place so it's hard to be sure.
It sounds like a fair bet Cyndane's the one sent to deal with Perrin (and it's quite reasonable she's the one who turned Masema obsessive with angelic visions of Rand as a divine being in the first place.. she was also messing with Rand's dreams, luring him toward Callandor at the same time), while Moghedien is the one meant to deal with Mat, and who now conveniently see him reach Caemlyn, where she's been involved in Moridin's plot - remotely, but still.
Either one of them could be doing any of these things... I agree that Masema was manipulated (probably even Compelled) and possibly Aram as well ... but the things going on with Perrin seem more up Moghedien's ally to me ... Lanfear/Cyndane always struck me as more direct whereas Moghedien waits in the Shadows for just the right moment.
It honestly doesn't much matter to me, just an interesting speculation
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Perrin's unseen foe
- 25/09/2010 11:03:19 AM
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It will be Cyndane...
- 25/09/2010 06:27:39 PM
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Can you point me in the direction of where Moghedien became involved with Elayne in Caemlyn? *NM*
- 25/09/2010 07:00:36 PM
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Re: Can you point me in the direction of where Moghedien became involved with Elayne in Caemlyn?
- 25/09/2010 07:51:47 PM
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Moridin was responsible for Hanlon and Shiaine being together
- 25/09/2010 11:24:16 PM
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Moridin's Moghedien's master....
- 26/09/2010 12:42:13 AM
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Re: Moridin is Cyndane's master too so that's not all that conclusive.
- 26/09/2010 03:10:04 AM
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Arrghhh
- 26/09/2010 01:14:37 PM
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Why didn't you just say that in your first post?
- 26/09/2010 03:32:41 PM
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*NM*
Re: Can you point me in the direction of where Moghedien became involved with Elayne in Caemlyn?
- 26/09/2010 05:01:23 AM
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