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Re: Plus... Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/09/2010 01:40:59 PM
It's also completely unbelieveable that a Forsaken and an AS couldn't find their own home. For example, simply kill/Compel the previous owner of a nice house in a city somewhere and voila, you can live there without depending on the hospitality of one of your rivals (like also Liandrin's group managed). Otherwise one live in TAR/near SG (as Lanfear, Moridin and Slayer apparently did).

This makes especially no sense if one considers that according to the WoT timeline at least 7 days lay between Aran'gar & Delana leaving the AS camp in KoD and Graendal's PoV in the beginning of TGS (where she was still ignorant of Aran'gar's fate). One can't seriously expect that Aran'gar or Delana were homeless during this time.

The whole scene was akin to bad fan fiction IMO.


I think Fionwe's explanation below is the best, and is a representation of what I think about it. There is no charity about their living together - there is a deep malignancy present that one would expect to find in the Forsaken.

Aran'gar didn't want to be friends with Graendal. She was irritated that Demandred, Semirhage and Mesaana were in an alliance and she looked towards Graendal as a source of information and possible collusion. She did, however, start to plan Graendal's downfall from the very beginning. It's completely likely that Graendal did the same - even Aran'gar said she'd flirt with someone she planned to murder than evening.

Graendal and Aran'gar are together in the palace because they're using each other. Graendal could detect threats with saidar, and we saw how Aran'gar sensing Rand helped her. It is also likely that together they would be able to destroy most threats. However, they were both constantly planning one another's demise, and Graendal took advantage of it eventually.

Aran'gar knew that if she could kill Graendal she'd get all her assets too, and increase her chance of being Nae'blis. Graendal probably thought Aran'gar good enough for a pet, as a potential but temporary ally, and as a source of information especially considering one of Balthamel's fortes was espionage.
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Why were they there? - 23/09/2010 07:14:06 AM 1345 Views
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Makes no real sense... - 23/09/2010 06:58:36 PM 735 Views
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Nice Aes Sedai answer! - 25/09/2010 05:47:17 PM 607 Views
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I agree, it was totally obvious *NM* - 24/09/2010 07:10:47 AM 258 Views
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What a well reasoned rebuttal! - 25/09/2010 02:57:39 PM 608 Views
No, I object because the whole scene was written in an utterly silly way, as I explained... - 25/09/2010 03:06:37 PM 924 Views
You didn't explain... - 25/09/2010 03:11:10 PM 588 Views
You should re-read all my posts in this thread. *NM* - 25/09/2010 03:17:50 PM 629 Views
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dramatic turn around, Etzel - 25/09/2010 05:26:26 PM 575 Views
Makes sense - 23/09/2010 11:51:00 PM 611 Views
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Still seems very deus ex machina *NM* - 25/09/2010 04:26:21 PM 287 Views

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