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Faile, love aside, has a very balanced, educated and experienced POV. More than many WoT grrls. newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 15/09/2010 04:06:41 AM
IF NOT MORE SO???

I remember both characters being pretty good POV reading when I read the series the first time, but the more I reread the less I like these characters. I think Nynaeve may actually be MORE annoying than Faile. She's still entertaining me, at least.


Kiera and some others make great points. My two cents:

Egwene was the mayor's daughter, worked in the inn, spun wool, and kept all the other girls away from the guy she wanted (cause he was the most exotic). Her attitudes have been so petulant that she's "missed the point" of whatever was going on - that's when you've got problems. She has so many good qualities, but likes to praise herself and can act horribly superior.

Nynaeve spent all her time caring for wounded and trying to help her people. Such responsibility is impressive. She's also industrious, brave, and willing to do what's right. Still, she truly earned my despise with her incessant bullying. She would have the occasional moment of normalcy, but she was so bad when she was bad (and so often so) that I couldn't really stand her. I have a respectful attitude toward her sudden maturity of the past two books.

Min was tending horses, loving older guys, and reading the future. That last certainly matures someone a bunch, and she could display that a lot.

Faile was well-educated and took the mantle of responsibility at a young age. When she talks to Perrin about other things - both early on and now - she often displays a practical understanding of life and the World. She can see how things are, and accept that that's what works, or that's what people will push for, things like that. And really, that alone can always set Faile far below Nynaeve in nuisance factor. She actually and often acts like a real person without too many glaring emotional problems that they can't help but display around others. Then she gets into the issues with her man and she sounds like a crafty, sneaky, super-crazypants nutjob. So it is with many people.

Faile is actually very much like early Min at times (sensible, clever, experienced), and also has a lot in common with Elayne (who I'm surprised she never met before the books). I get the feeling that if Elayne had to work the hardest out of all the Wot grrls, Faile would come in second place (it's hard to measure, but that's my guess). Faile is courageous and has none of the advantages that many of the other WoT women have. She can be a pain, but I seldom struggle to remember that she's worthwhile to read, as I have with some of the other people I have mentioned.
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Anybody else think Nynaeve is easily as annoying as Faile? - 14/09/2010 05:43:21 AM 1883 Views
NOOOOOO!!!1!!eleven! *NM* - 14/09/2010 05:48:48 AM 343 Views
on the reread, egwene is annoying me the most so far - 14/09/2010 08:53:30 AM 1128 Views
Not me, love reading from Nynaeve's POV *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:11:20 AM 452 Views
I find Nynaeve more annoying. - 14/09/2010 02:14:30 PM 922 Views
Re: I find Nynaeve more annoying. - 14/09/2010 02:53:18 PM 1111 Views
I like Nynaeve more every time I re-read - 14/09/2010 02:25:13 PM 760 Views
Faile is not annoying, Nynaeve on the other hand... *NM* - 14/09/2010 02:51:55 PM 322 Views
Nynave cooler than Faile - 14/09/2010 04:50:51 PM 778 Views
I love Nynaeve - 14/09/2010 05:22:01 PM 787 Views
OMG I'm so glad to know I'm not the only intelligent person here! *NM* - 14/09/2010 07:26:26 PM 350 Views
Thanks, but its only my personal opinion *NM* - 14/09/2010 07:32:09 PM 307 Views
I don't find Faile annoying, and I love Nynaeve. - 15/09/2010 12:05:48 AM 798 Views
Ditto. On all three points. - 15/09/2010 12:12:21 AM 735 Views
Agreed - 16/09/2010 03:04:08 PM 688 Views
double post, please ignore *NM* - 16/09/2010 03:04:32 PM 343 Views
Nynaeve was ruined by Egwene's rise to authority over her. - 15/09/2010 01:04:58 AM 783 Views
I still like Nynaeve, but... - 15/09/2010 02:26:00 AM 735 Views
Interesting thing here - 17/09/2010 12:57:33 PM 626 Views
Faile, love aside, has a very balanced, educated and experienced POV. More than many WoT grrls. - 15/09/2010 04:06:41 AM 736 Views
Nyn is my favorite female. Faile is my second favorite. - 16/09/2010 06:22:01 PM 703 Views
I think it goes both ways - 17/09/2010 07:11:48 AM 652 Views
Not even close. And Tuon is most annoying. NM *NM* - 17/09/2010 12:51:43 AM 395 Views
They're not the most annoying though. - 17/09/2010 07:20:33 AM 737 Views

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