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Cannoli's just got huge blinders... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 11/09/2010 04:59:50 PM

But it seems when Egwene must do things other rulers do she's a douche bag.

We just need to face the fact that for some reason, this fictional character has so offended Cannoli that he will gladly twist any of her actions into something with evil intent, or a sign of great stupidity.

And his two fall backs for when textual evidence is plainly contradicting his interpretations are:

1) PoV trap: This really means that Cannoli's interpretation matters, not Egwene's own thoughts when it comes to deciding motives. Apparently, her PoV is unreliable enough that we cannot trust what she thinks in the privacy of her mind. But everyone else has can be believed and extensively quoted.

2) No prophesy: There is no prophesy saying that Egwene has to save the White Tower. Hence, while certain actions can be forgiven in Rand's case (since he is the prophesied savior), the same actions from Egwene are EEEEEEVIL. Essentially, if you work towards a cause without having prophesy to back you up, you're held up to a higher moral standard.

That's it. The rest is just window dressing. I'm sure we'll have a tedious post from him detailing some different ways he argues against Egwene, but I can guarantee that most will come down to these two in the end.

Arguing with him is thus completely pointless. No one who's being reasonable will agree with the points I mentioned above. But Cannoli is convinced they are some kind of great logic. Given the huge disconnect, arguments usually descend to Cannoli correcting grammar, calling into question the knowledge and intelligence of the poster, and so on. I'm sure he would cheerfully argue with RJ as well, even if RJ had pointed out that Egwene is not written that way at all.
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