there are elements of all 3 in each of the Ta'veren
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 03:12:53 PM
You have the Father, the Warrior, and the Trickster. Odin, Thor, and Loki. I think this has been done before, but there are bits and pieces taken from each into all three, but predominantely I see Rand as the Father, Perrin ironically enough as the Warrior, and Mat as the Trickster
I've seen a slightly different setup:
Rand as Tyr, they both lose a hand, and Tyr's a warrior god.
Mat as Odin: Odin hung from Yggdrasil for knowledge, he fights with a spear, he's attended by two ravens (whose names mean Thought and Memory), he wears a wide-brimmed hat, and lost an eye (as people suspect is going to happen in ToM). Mat is clearly more related to Odin than Loki.
Perrin as Thor: Naturally, though he's a lot closer to the Slavic god Perun.
As well as several other mythologies. It's part of RJs myth turns to legend etc... concept. Much like the Forsaken all have cobbled together bits of various Nazi commanders as well as mythological beings.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
What would be the trio of masculine archetypes, and how would the ta'veren fit them?
05/09/2010 12:01:09 AM
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I can't think of any mythological trio of masculine types...
05/09/2010 12:30:13 AM
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there's a duo of masculine types
05/09/2010 01:29:41 AM
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Ooo I forgot about the Trinity
05/09/2010 02:13:33 AM
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Re: Ooo I forgot about the Trinity
05/09/2010 06:22:35 AM
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i do know all three members, thank you.
05/09/2010 02:43:31 PM
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The fact that you would call the Holy Ghost a vessel in that sense shows how little you know
05/09/2010 07:55:57 PM
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Re: The fact that you would call the Holy Ghost a vessel in that sense shows how little you know
05/09/2010 10:20:11 PM
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I wonder if those are the archetypes on which the buddy-cop dynamic is based.
05/09/2010 06:33:56 AM
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Take a look at Nordic Mythos
05/09/2010 05:41:08 AM
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Re: Take a look at Nordic Mythos
05/09/2010 07:18:22 AM
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there are elements of all 3 in each of the Ta'veren
05/09/2010 03:12:53 PM
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Yes, Odin, Thor and Tyr were the centre trio of nordic mythology.
05/09/2010 06:25:51 PM
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The Father, the Wanderer and the Wise Old Man are in most myths and Jung wrote a lot about them
07/09/2010 07:57:28 PM
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norse mythology is the closest *NM*
07/09/2010 11:29:24 PM
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Yes, run and hide, sissy-boy. There's a reason Mom likes me better! *NM*
09/09/2010 12:39:13 AM
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