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Re: Blaming Rand for Aes Sedai misfortunes is absurd fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/09/2010 02:16:06 PM

Even setting aside the issue of how much Rand should believe when a single non-credible source accuses a man without proof, it's ludicrous to think that Aes Sedai require a warning from any man to be as careful and wary as possible in dealing with a male channeler and past false dragon who has killed sisters in the past, or with a group of male channelers.

In what way is Logain less credible than Taim? Its not like there was any love lost between Rand and Taim, and both Logain and Taim were infamous False Dragons. Sure, Logain might just be talking out of jealousy, but given Rand's own mistrust of Taim, a quick inspection would have done absolutely no harm if Logain was lying, and changed the game in avery big way if he was right. Its not like Rand was very busy when Logain got him the news.

The Aes Sedai could not be more careful or wary if Rand came to each sister before she left for the Black Tower and told them personally all of his experiences with the renegades, and procured Logain to share his suspicions.

That is utter crock. Its one thing to approach a dangerous male channeler who has been presented as a staunch ally of the real Dragon Reborn, and quite something else to approach one who's possibly a traitor and a Darkfriend.

If in fact Egwene holds any unpleasant experiences of her daughters at the Black Tower over Rand, it will be in the nature of a political gambit, with absolutely no justice to the claim, as in her contradictory inaugural addresses to the Hall and to the rebels.

Yeah, because forcing the Aes Sedai to be ready for the Last Battle after informing them of her intent up front is exactly the same as Elaida's dictatorial actions aimed at increasing her personal power.

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Will Rand have cause to be mad at Egwene if... Lews Therin Telamon - 01/09/2010 02:24:24 AM 1515 Views

everyone always has cause to be mad at Egwene *NM* damookster - 01/09/2010 02:51:32 AM 490 Views

Agreed. I've been mad at her for years. *NM* j-whitt987 - 01/09/2010 03:05:04 PM 375 Views

Well... DomA - 01/09/2010 04:05:02 AM 969 Views

Blaming Rand for Aes Sedai misfortunes is absurd Cannoli - 01/09/2010 08:19:27 AM 933 Views

Re: Blaming Rand for Aes Sedai misfortunes is absurd fionwe1987 - 01/09/2010 02:16:06 PM 914 Views

Re: Blaming Rand for Aes Sedai misfortunes is absurd Datakim - 01/09/2010 04:41:36 PM 684 Views

One of the weaker elements of the series Nameless Ashaman - 01/09/2010 05:27:12 PM 748 Views

Re: Blaming Rand for Aes Sedai misfortunes is absurd fionwe1987 - 01/09/2010 06:30:37 PM 747 Views

What proof do you have that Logain is good? Or proof that Taim is bad, that Rand would know? Cannoli - 01/09/2010 06:50:19 PM 912 Views

Absolutely none, which is the point. fionwe1987 - 02/09/2010 12:14:53 AM 744 Views

IIRC Logain never said Taim was a DF... Cricketeer - 02/09/2010 06:03:31 AM 661 Views

Of course! Rumors from a semi-retired terrorist Rand has never spoken to before = Verin's book. Cannoli - 04/09/2010 03:04:19 AM 850 Views

Re: What proof do you have that Logain is good? Or proof that Taim is bad, that Rand would know? Underwood - 02/09/2010 08:51:15 PM 619 Views

That's EXACTLY why Egwene would do it. Great Lord of Chaos - 01/09/2010 06:45:25 PM 768 Views

Now, now. I'm trying to play nice and stipulate good intentions and a sense of justice on her part. Cannoli - 01/09/2010 06:51:04 PM 695 Views

Re: Blaming Rand for Aes Sedai misfortunes is absurd DomA - 03/09/2010 02:39:38 AM 701 Views

There's just as much evidence for the same sort of motivation for Logain Cannoli - 04/09/2010 03:50:22 AM 690 Views

hmmm.... I'll probably kick myself for responding to this

darius_sedai - 05/09/2010 04:31:34 PM 685 Views

Re: hmmm.... I'll probably kick myself for responding to this

Cannoli - 14/09/2010 05:16:58 AM 671 Views

I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/09/2010 02:24:59 PM 414 Views

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Even setting aside the issue of how much Rand should believe when a single non-credible source accuses a man without proof, it's ludicrous to think that Aes Sedai require a warning from any man to be as careful and wary as possible in dealing with a male channeler and past false dragon who has killed sisters in the past, or with a group of male channelers.</quote> 
In what way is Logain less credible than Taim? Its not like there was any love lost between Rand and Taim, and both Logain and Taim were infamous False Dragons. Sure, Logain might just be talking out of jealousy, but given Rand's own mistrust of Taim, a quick inspection would have done absolutely no harm if Logain was lying, and changed the game in  avery big way if he was right. Its not like Rand was very busy when Logain got him the news.

<quote>The Aes Sedai could not be more careful or wary if Rand came to each sister before she left for the Black Tower and told them personally all of his experiences with the renegades, and procured Logain to share his suspicions.</quote> 
That is utter crock. Its one thing to approach a dangerous male channeler who has been presented as a staunch ally of the real Dragon Reborn, and quite something else to approach one who's possibly a traitor and a Darkfriend.

<quote>If in fact Egwene holds any unpleasant experiences of her daughters at the Black Tower over Rand, it will be in the nature of a political gambit, with absolutely no justice to the claim, as in her contradictory inaugural addresses to the Hall and to the rebels. </quote>
Yeah, because forcing the Aes Sedai to be ready for the Last Battle after informing them of her intent up front is exactly the same as Elaida's dictatorial actions aimed at increasing her personal power.8} 
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