For thousands of years the female "dreadlords" are recruited among the sisters (in the Westlands, at least - we can't be sure the Windfinders's little stunt of pretending to be weak and sending their rare "most talented" recruits to the Tower fooled the Shadow, or that there's no DF among the Aiel WO. The Shadow doesn't seem to have bothered with DF among the damane either - useless because enslaved - and even among the sul'dam they're apparently rare). The Light's channellers obviously worry the Forsaken and the DO far less than they do the readers. Ishamael infiltrated the Tower with the BA, and one might wonder if it's really their channelling ability that attracted him or the power and influence of the WT he wanted to undermine over the centuries, while at the same time it gave BA a lot of status/authority most DF don't have.
The Kin recruits among fallen novices and Accepted and their real nature wasn't known to the BA after 2000 years of existence, which makes it very unlikely there are DF in there, which in turn means the Black Ajah has never bothered with women put out of the Tower, and Ishamael has never seen the point in forcing them to.
Sheriam had last word on putting Else Grinwell out of the Tower or not. Obviously, if she was BA material, Sheriam would have made sure to keep her around and shape her so she passed the Accepted test and made the shawl one day (she had enough ability, but not the proper personality). So Else was of no interest to the BA, we have to conclude. The Shadow has little use for women who can't apply themselves to their training in the OP and are undisciplined.
The Kin recruits among fallen novices and Accepted and their real nature wasn't known to the BA after 2000 years of existence, which makes it very unlikely there are DF in there, which in turn means the Black Ajah has never bothered with women put out of the Tower, and Ishamael has never seen the point in forcing them to.
Sheriam had last word on putting Else Grinwell out of the Tower or not. Obviously, if she was BA material, Sheriam would have made sure to keep her around and shape her so she passed the Accepted test and made the shawl one day (she had enough ability, but not the proper personality). So Else was of no interest to the BA, we have to conclude. The Shadow has little use for women who can't apply themselves to their training in the OP and are undisciplined.
Of course this thread makes me wonder if women like Else will be sought out as Novices again under the new open Novice book rules. Seems like the she could theoretically be allowed re-admittance based on the Kin being allowed to come back. I also wonder if she would be in a better suited mindset under the "family" organization Sharina came up with.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Else Grinwell...
08/08/2010 10:49:52 PM
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Else Grinwell...
08/08/2010 11:14:02 PM
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wait
08/08/2010 11:18:33 PM
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No. Not in Eye of the World.
08/08/2010 11:25:58 PM
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I was under the impression that she was.
09/08/2010 01:46:32 AM
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I think Lanfear killed Else
09/08/2010 12:02:34 PM
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Why would she?
09/08/2010 12:17:34 PM
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If she knew about Else going after Rand in TEoTW... No idea how she would though. *NM*
09/08/2010 03:01:29 PM
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Re: Else Grinwell...
09/08/2010 01:04:04 AM
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Re: Else Grinwell...
09/08/2010 02:08:10 AM
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Almost non-existant (the BA seems to disagree with your opinion she had potential)
09/08/2010 12:42:30 PM
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I agree with you DomA
09/08/2010 03:16:47 PM
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Re: Almost non-existant (the BA seems to disagree with your opinion she had potential)
10/08/2010 06:11:47 AM
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It could also be that they are afflicted with Aes Sedai prejudice (like their disregard of the Kin)
11/08/2010 03:29:16 PM
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Didn't the BA kill Else? Or did they kill some other farmer girl? *NM*
10/08/2010 10:51:38 AM
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Other farmer girl, I think. Sahra? *NM*
10/08/2010 02:53:58 PM
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Re: Other farmer girl, I think. Sahra?
10/08/2010 05:50:51 PM
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I always assumed it was Alviarin
10/08/2010 09:12:01 PM
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Re: I always assumed it was Alviarin
11/08/2010 06:24:44 AM
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Sheriam would have known, but at this point in the story we had no clue she was BA
12/08/2010 03:28:09 AM
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