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Re: The color issue started before the Cleansing, btw Datakim Send a noteboard - 08/08/2010 09:05:27 AM

While Mat and Perrin first mention the colors at the Cleansing, it had been creeping up on them for a while. Mat notes in WH that he has a feeling that he would know if Rand died, and Rand says the same thing about Mat at the end of tPoD. It actually started for him in aCoS when he is waiting to make his secret trip to Caemlyn to meet Bashere and Bael and their women, and IIRC he says he actually first began to notice them as a captive of the Aes Sedai. Like Mat & Perrin, it might have been creeping up on him before that, but the solitude and lack of other things occupying his mind gave him the opportunity to take note of them. In Mat's & Perrin's cases, it was not a lack of anything else allowing them to notice their developing connection to Rand, but rather an event of such supreme significance that it overrode their normal inattention.


Yes, the colours were there before but became a full vision through which they could actually see Rand for the first time during the cleansing. I made quotes in reply to orius if you want to see. In both cases we also have a unique situation in that it seems that the colours appear even though neither Mat or Perrin actually thought about Rand which is not how it normally works.

It seems that the cleansing was of such significance that the pattern forced the colours on Mat and Perrin so that they would have some idea of what was happening. I felt that maybe the Semirhage incident might be like that too. Rand not only lost it completely and went totally dark!Rand, but he also channeled the TP. We don't know much about the ta'veren link yet, but I cannot help but wonder what effect using TP would have on it, since TP clearly had a negative effect on Rand's other ta'veren abilities (all the effects of ta'veren became evil after TP as noted by Cadsuane).
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