the seanchan have been copying an old design of an original ter'angreal for hundreds of years i doubt any have the ability the design a new one from scratch considering the first was made by an AS
Maybe. But even if this is true, there is nothing preventing them from first creating an a'dam collar and putting it on a damane, and then creating a perfectly ordinary metal collar, putting it over the a'dam and then sealing it shut. That way the a'dam could not be removed without first ripping out the sealed ordinary collar. Not that this is impossible, but it would make things harder for the AS.
And ofcourse if the Seanchan learn the secret of cuendillar from a captured sister (does Elaida know the weave?) then its game over. Any damane will be damane for life even if rescued because the collar cannot be removed by any means without destroying the cuendillar collar protecting the a'dam collar.
they can just throw the warders into the mix and the oaths become void. they'll never have the element of surprise being besieged anyhow
Sure, if they want to start sacrifing warders by the dozen. The damane would utterly slaughter them afterall. This would have the negative effect of the snapping bonds causing trauma to the AS, and also would likely result in a lot less warder recruits.
this boils down to whether you believe a linked angreal wielding circle of AS are stronger than the seanchan. i can't the see seanchan getting their hands on any angreal
It would happen. Even if linked circle is stronger, they are not invulnerable. Even if for every AS that dies, 3 damane are killed, that would still end up with AS killed and angreal available.
As I said before, if a circle with angreal were unstoppable, then the black tower would not be a problem at all and the AS would have no reason to worry. And yet we know the AS are terrified and freely admit that they no longer have the power to challenge the asha'man, despite the fact that the asha'man cannot link anymore than the damane can.
Circles are a nice advantage, but not the answer to all problems.
the AS are masters of finding loopholes in those oaths, they've been doing it covertly for hundreds of years, it's been said as much, the oaths are charade so that the public believe them to be controlled
We have never seen it happen in the series though. Everytime the AS take part in a battle against humans, they have to place themselves in danger first.
Sure, if you could find and AS who truly _believed_ that she was in mortal danger even when the Seanchan were not yet attacking (Egwene and other traumatised former damane AS would likely work) then this AS could attack. But I suspect there are less of these than you think. Most AS would be at a disadvantage in having to place themselves into battle situation first (or sacrifice a warder).
The White Tower has all the tools to defeat the Senahcan...
03/08/2010 10:32:03 PM
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03/08/2010 10:53:38 PM
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Why not take an oath...
04/08/2010 12:09:46 AM
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or just adapt the one power as a weapon oath to include a sister's freedom as well as her life *NM*
04/08/2010 01:45:43 AM
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Perhaps they would die?
04/08/2010 09:10:42 AM
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04/08/2010 07:14:24 PM
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05/08/2010 08:33:18 AM
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06/08/2010 12:02:16 AM
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they can't
04/08/2010 12:54:46 AM
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Re: they can't
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Re: they can't
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Re: they can't
04/08/2010 02:44:10 PM
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read the oaths again
04/08/2010 08:15:24 PM
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I don't think #1 is as simple as you say.
04/08/2010 02:22:25 AM
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For the most part, they can only defend themselves...
04/08/2010 10:59:23 AM
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05/08/2010 01:17:44 AM
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I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf
05/08/2010 08:19:38 PM
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05/08/2010 11:57:43 PM
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Whoa whoa whoa!
06/08/2010 03:07:34 AM
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I actually think the opposite: the damane would wipe the floor with the BT
13/08/2010 11:27:21 PM
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My thoughts on the damane...
05/08/2010 04:11:35 AM
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How exactly would Egwene learn where the Damane are kept?
05/08/2010 07:57:55 PM
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Interrogate the Damane.
05/08/2010 10:32:17 PM
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