Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
DomA Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM
Agreed! Rand channeling TP was a major thing regardless of whether he had permission or not. And though I feel too tired right now to look for a quote, I recall BS mentioned that there WOULD be consequences for the TP, even now that Rand is sane. I wonder what.
If the theory is correct that Rand channeled via the balefire link to Moridin and if the DO was surprised by this, there might also be consequences for Moridin or among the Shadow. After this probably scary experience, Moridin might change his plans about Rand, because that situation is too dangerous. Or Moridin might consider to use the link between them more directly to get control over Rand.
What Brandon said (notably by adding "even if Rand is now sane" suggests consequences for Rand. What you bring up isn't really "consequences", it's repercussions on the plot in general for the fact Rand used the TP. Those may be there too (the epiphany itself is more likely to force Moridin to change his strategy, if you ask me), but Brandon seemed to talk about consequences for Rand or through Rand (his "dark aura" may not go away so easily, for example).
A distinct possible consequence, now that Rand has destroyed the CK, is that the amount of saidin he could get from the CK helped him keep the desire to use the TP again at bay. Now, if Rand finds himself in a dark spot or a position of weakness, he might struggle a lot more resisting the temptation to embrace the TP (which gave him a feeling of utter power similar to a far greater amount of saiding that Rand can embrace unaided... the sort of feeling he could reproduce by drawing on the CK and now could only be embracing the TP). Demandred (or Moghedien) experienced something similar - they used the TP only when it was their last chance/last hope (it's not totally unlike how Nynaeve broke her block, except in her despair/darkness she gave up, and this surrender was what she needed. Previously, she could embrace saidar only when she was so blinded by anger she forgot she was surrendering to saidar).
This message last edited by DomA on 27/07/2010 at 03:52:38 AM
foreshadowing of Semirhage's death
25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM
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I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed
25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM
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I disagree about the TP aspect
25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM
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It's an interesting theory in either direction
25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM
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Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction
26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM
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BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM
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I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books
26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM
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You were right the first time
26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM
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I think the question is...
26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM
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I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage
26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM
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I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key
26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM
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Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it
26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM
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Unlikely, and stupid if true
26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM
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That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM
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Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM
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I fail to see the relevance. *NM*
27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM
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the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK
27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM
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Are you certain?
27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM
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??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern
27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM
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So why not give it to Moridin then?
27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM
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If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed
27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM
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Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"?
27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM
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It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam
27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM
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This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others.
26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM
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Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there.
27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM
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Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM
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Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM
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You confuse foreshadowing and predictability
27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM
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That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM*
27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM
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I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot.
27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM
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