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Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM
The sa'angreal was a necessary tool to achieve this, but it was not the critical component.


Umm? What?

How could Rand have cleansed Saidin without the CK? Even with the combined power of both CK statues it took hours upon hours for Rand to finish.

How long would it have taken had he tried to do it without the CK, pulling saidin with only his own natural strength. Months? Years? Decades? And that is assuming it would even have worked. We have no idea what would have happened had Rand stopped to rest in between. For all we know SL would have exploded instantly, despite the fact that only a tiny amount of taint would have been channeled into it.

I would say that without CK, the cleansing could not have happened.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1654 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 860 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 270 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 273 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 769 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 759 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 694 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 558 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 582 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 605 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 556 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 630 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 590 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 593 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 562 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 586 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 663 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 687 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 608 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 599 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 613 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 583 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 649 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 663 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 612 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 648 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 571 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 576 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 655 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 570 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 644 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 584 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 537 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 556 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 254 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 507 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 557 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 599 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 551 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 232 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 532 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 561 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 580 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 592 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 570 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 584 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 655 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 607 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 533 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 571 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 581 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 582 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 577 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 553 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 547 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 552 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 536 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 550 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 565 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 529 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 576 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 525 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 497 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 856 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 253 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 237 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 540 Views
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