Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM
I think Brandon hinted that there is a way to defeat the Rod itself, not the whole Aes Sedai process around taking the Oath.
For some months now I have the following theory:
- to swear the Oath again, the Aes Sedai are un-swearing them;
- since Mesaana didn't swear any Oath, we actually don't know what happens when you are un-swearing them while never swearing in the first place;
- my theory is that such process creates a Oath-negative effect for the channeler, and when the channeler actually swears the Oath, its effect is cancelled by the Oath-negative effect;
- this may actually be tied to the physics of the Rod and so Brandon's words hold true.
For some months now I have the following theory:
- to swear the Oath again, the Aes Sedai are un-swearing them;
- since Mesaana didn't swear any Oath, we actually don't know what happens when you are un-swearing them while never swearing in the first place;
- my theory is that such process creates a Oath-negative effect for the channeler, and when the channeler actually swears the Oath, its effect is cancelled by the Oath-negative effect;
- this may actually be tied to the physics of the Rod and so Brandon's words hold true.
However, Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones. She had oathes to the DO and as shown by the BA hunters the OR cancels those. I don't recall if the "unswearing" was ever fully depicted in the novels but I think it would be a simple "I forswear all oathes previously made"
How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod?
- 17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM
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That isn't tricking the oath rod, the way I'm understanding his answer. That's tricking humans *NM*
- 17/07/2010 10:29:52 AM
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I don't think
- 17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM
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As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
- 17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM
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Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
- 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
- 20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
- 20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
- 20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM
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I think this is a tricky issue
- 18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM
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Re: I think this is a tricky issue
- 18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM
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Perhaps she pressed, and held the on/off switch, so that the Oaths never triggered? *NM*
- 19/07/2010 09:50:13 PM
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Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant.
- 18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM
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but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then....
- 19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM
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What about the True Power?
- 19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM
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A true power invisible glove is better than a one power invisible glove. *NM*
- 20/07/2010 07:46:48 PM
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I doubt Mesaana stands high enough to have TP access right now. She's probably the lowest FS. *NM*
- 20/07/2010 07:55:31 PM
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Yeah I realize what I presented was kinda the opposite of what I was going for.
- 20/07/2010 02:15:46 AM
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I just thought of the most obvious way around it.
- 20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM
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Wouldn't work
- 20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM
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I agree, but...
- 20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM
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This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link
- 20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM
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Re: Wouldn't work
- 20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM
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I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
- 20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM
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Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
- 20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM
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Off-topic question:
- 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM
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I'm fairly certain that the ability can't be sensed until they are very close to touching
- 21/07/2010 09:29:54 PM
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