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I agree with part and disagree with part. Logain Send a noteboard - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM
BS just said during his Q&A chat, that "these [last three] books are culminations, not thread-starters".

Rand balefiring Graendal's palace was a perfect culmination scene. Consequently, it makes no real sense to basically start a new thread in ToM by placing Graendal in a new lair somewhere else in the Westlands, or to suddenly jump back in the timeline before this culmination.


I agree with your assessment that setting up Graendal in a new location would be a new thread starter and thus, that is highly unlikely.

However, I disagree about suddenly jumping back in the timeline. There WILL be a jump back in timeline because Brandon has to catch Perrin and Mat up to the Egwene and Rand timelines.

Therefore, I don't know enough about Graendal's plans in the Mat and Perrin parts of the world, but if she had a part to play there, we could easily see Graendal in the ToM.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Sidious - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 1973 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 933 Views
Too convulted...... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1062 Views
The logic is rather... Etzel - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 832 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? Artsapat - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1007 Views
Indeed... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 921 Views
Re: Indeed... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 958 Views
That is wrong Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 792 Views
Re: That is wrong Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 882 Views
It's not at all... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 787 Views
Plus... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 730 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. Logain - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 791 Views
exactly darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 809 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? Lohikaarme - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 859 Views
sorry but no dacole - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 920 Views
Exactly Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 808 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 447 Views
Actually... Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 836 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 978 Views
It makes perfect sense. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 838 Views
I won't be 100% sure she's dead until we get a solid "she's toast" from either the text darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:21:18 PM 846 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* darius_sedai - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 576 Views
Until I have absolute proof to the contrary.(Confirmation by Harriot or BS) krassos - 13/07/2010 04:20:49 PM 757 Views
If Graendal didn't know Rand would use balefire, why would she have Delana do the Compulsion? beetnemesis - 13/07/2010 04:57:10 PM 1014 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 906 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 912 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 820 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them Underwood - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 887 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 549 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* Underwood - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 443 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 887 Views
Huh Sidious - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 859 Views
Why did the lair explode? Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 804 Views
*NM* Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 602 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. Mik - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 995 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 711 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 812 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1000 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 756 Views
Provide a quote. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 894 Views
read the chapter darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 717 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 843 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 927 Views
Was that what I asked for? Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 689 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 713 Views
Oh if that's what you want darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 862 Views
Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. Fanatic-Templar - 11/08/2010 06:57:39 PM 769 Views
Re: Yes, he pretty much says out loud that he can't just wipe out her fortress. darius_sedai - 11/08/2010 09:20:10 PM 766 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 727 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 701 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 808 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 852 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 855 Views
Which ones? Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 748 Views
Re: Which ones? Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 844 Views
Well. Fanatic-Templar - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 718 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 813 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage darius_sedai - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 882 Views
Thanks for the quote. Fanatic-Templar - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 898 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 736 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion BlackAdder - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 747 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 851 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim Skeeve the Great - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 672 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 904 Views
No. Don't think so. Tom - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 723 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. Seriana Sedai - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 890 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... fionwe1987 - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 811 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Fanatic-Templar - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 871 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... Seriana Sedai - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 781 Views
Yip Sidious - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 787 Views
Lame. eucatastrophe - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 738 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 682 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* Yunalesca - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 488 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 733 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 823 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? saidarisnowtainted - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 934 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* Lord Haart - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 276 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... Jeordam - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1021 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? Underwood - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 837 Views
Honestly, if she's still alive, how is she going to die? Gher - 16/07/2010 05:49:06 AM 660 Views
Ahh, just remembered that some people think some Forsaken will survive Tarmon Gai'don. Still... *NM* Gher - 16/07/2010 05:51:41 AM 386 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? scooter - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 743 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 710 Views
Because he was right, that's why. Terez - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 721 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 655 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible Terez - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 945 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 809 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* scooter - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 814 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 763 Views
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