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***Brandon*** Re: Will we see Rand in the next book? YES. The book will not be a 100% flash-back like Bk 10. There will be a little bit of catch-up for Perrin, but Egwene and Rand both have large parts too.


Brandon don't say anything about "flashback scenes". He used the word flashback inaccurately. To paraphrase him he said:

The book doesn't only or mostly return to the timeline of TGS the way COT did for WH ("it's not 100% flashback like book 10". It also moves the timeline forward significantly, and so we pick up with Egwene and Rand along the way, but first with Perrin (and Mat, but Mat is less behind) and many other characters we will return to the timeline of TGS so everything can get in synch before the last act of the book.

It's nothing new, and no mystery. In TOM Rand and Egwene will first get a few bridge chapters that lead up to the part of the book where a big event happens that reunite the main players and is the beginning of TG. We've known about that for well over a year now. Typically RJ's third acts cover the last third of the book, so yeah, Rand and Egwene will have a significant role, first about as much as Perrin/Mat in TGS for the bridge (so Brandon explained), then their involvement in the last act.

There's absolutely nothing that increases or decreases the likelyhood of a Graendal scene in there. As before it still depends if she is or not involved in a minor storyline that will return to the timeline of TGS in TOM. If she isn't involved with Aran'gar or the other Chosen, it's unlikely she will appear (I can't see her getting involved with Mat/Perrin when she had to be in AD to scheme against Rand). If she is still involved with Aran'gar, and the TGS prologue suggests a further development may be coming after Aran'gar has lost her position with the rebels, which she not had yet in the TGS prologue, Graendal may very well appear (those "flashback" scenes Brandon preferred to cut from the timeline of TGS could all have been moved to the prologue of TOM, incidentally: Graendal/Aran'gar, Alviarin stuff, Red envoys, etc.). Etzel read this as "it's 100% flashback-free" where Brandon said "((TOM is) not 100% flashback". Brandon said nothing about flashbacks, in the proper sense.

And he also all but confirmed that characters we haven't seen in TGS like Aran'gar, or Alviarin will appear in TOM.

Somewhere else he distorted what Brandon said about Graendal's death too by twisting the context of the question. He refused to confirm her death before TOM is out (where he said the answer might also be obvious), because dead or not, her role is not over. All he was willing to say was that she will at least be mentionned again (which is not quite the same as saying "she will only be mentionned". He opened the door to a possible reappearance, and didn't want to hint if it happened before her death or meant she isn't dead, was on screen or through a mention by someone else. That's all.

Etzel should ask himself why Brandon, who is a lot more forthcoming than RJ and doesn't like to mislead people on purpose (he said that) unless he is forced to because their questions involve spoilers, didn't just flat out say since, according to him, there's no mystery that Graendal's role is now 100% done for in the series now : "Graendal is dead. She won't have any more scenes". Obvioulsy, there's something ackward for Brandon that prevents him from confirming flat out we're done with Graendal.

IMHO, there's a fair possibility the ackwardness arose from the fact Graendal is dead by the end of TGS, but she won't be dead yet for the first half of TOM, and he didn't want to hint if she will make a return before she dies or not. He went with a non-committing "she will be mentionned again", which leaves all doors open: she may not be dead at all, she might make an onscreen reappearance pre-death, she might be involved in the pre-death timeline because she will be mentionned by other characters (Aran'gar, Demandred/Mesaana etc.) or TOM book may deal with the aftermath of her death (Forsaken meeting etc.). All of this is possible (though personally I can't see her having survived Rand's attack).




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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 1970 Views
This... - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1098 Views
how do you get there from this? - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 956 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 886 Views
Because... - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 914 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 860 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 769 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 877 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 854 Views
No... - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 763 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 729 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 699 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 909 Views
Again... - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 668 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 828 Views
The point is... - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 755 Views
that is 100% your interpretation - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 772 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 708 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 682 Views
As far as we know... - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 736 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 901 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 660 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 795 Views
We will see... *NM* - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 988 Views
Indeed - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 698 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 908 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 835 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 893 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 785 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 882 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 706 Views
where do you get this stuff from? - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 921 Views
Eh, no - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 777 Views
I disagree - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 743 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 867 Views
pure interpretation - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 802 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 864 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 351 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 591 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 716 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 765 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 722 Views
IMO... - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 660 Views
And... - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 787 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 799 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 856 Views
not really - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 936 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 910 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 794 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 787 Views
Ok... - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 699 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 788 Views
I also just said that... - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 678 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 717 Views
But we never... - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 777 Views
Re: But we never... - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 742 Views
I think - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 838 Views
Re: I think - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 836 Views
Because some people can't read... - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 856 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 661 Views
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I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 817 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 783 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 935 Views
hrmm, not necessarily - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 727 Views
I agree. *NM* - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 384 Views
Uh... - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 861 Views
or "can't" because ... - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 728 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 770 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 860 Views
Perrin catch-up? - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 651 Views
We will get it on screen - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 732 Views
On Mat's "death" - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 962 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 681 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 789 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 824 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 750 Views

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