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Indeed... Etzel Send a noteboard - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM
There is no reason to believe that Graendal told Aran'gar where her lair is (she didn't do it till TGS, prologue). Except for exchanging informations and probably not fighting each other, Graendal and Aran'gar are hardly working together. Nothing suggests that Graendal would suddenly trust Aran'gar that much to tell her where Graendal's lair is, let alone offer Aran'gar and Delana to live there.

The scene was cleverly written by using the mechanics of balefire and Compulsion to explain how Rand managed to outsmart Graendal with brute force. This was only possible, because Nynaeve found Graendal's trail in time. It would be completely unlike RJ, if his hero Rand was actually unable to kill Graendal and would seem like an idiot in retrospective, just to still have Graendal around in the story to deal with her some time later. This was the perfect death scene for Graendal.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 1973 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 933 Views
Too convulted...... - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1062 Views
The logic is rather... - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 832 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1007 Views
Indeed... - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 922 Views
Re: Indeed... - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 958 Views
That is wrong - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 792 Views
Re: That is wrong - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 882 Views
It's not at all... - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 787 Views
Plus... - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 730 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 791 Views
exactly - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 809 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 859 Views
sorry but no - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 920 Views
Exactly - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 808 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 447 Views
Actually... - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 836 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 978 Views
It makes perfect sense. - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 838 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 576 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 906 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 912 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 820 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 887 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 549 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 443 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 887 Views
Huh - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 859 Views
Why did the lair explode? - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 804 Views
*NM* - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 602 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 995 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 711 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 812 Views
... - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1000 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 756 Views
Provide a quote. - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 894 Views
read the chapter - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 717 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 843 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 927 Views
Was that what I asked for? - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 689 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 714 Views
Oh if that's what you want - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 862 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 727 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 701 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 808 Views
Nonsense. - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 852 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 855 Views
Which ones? - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 748 Views
Re: Which ones? - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 844 Views
Well. - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 718 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 813 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 882 Views
Thanks for the quote. - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 898 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 736 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 747 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 851 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 672 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 904 Views
No. Don't think so. - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 723 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 890 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 811 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 871 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 781 Views
Yip - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 787 Views
Lame. - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 738 Views
Not really - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 682 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 488 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 733 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 823 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 935 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 276 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1021 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 837 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 743 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 710 Views
Because he was right, that's why. - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 721 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 655 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 945 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 809 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 816 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 763 Views

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