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Yeah, I disagree too... Gher Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 02:28:13 AM
the Aiel male channelers who run off to the Blight,

Well, they're not so much committing suicide as choosing the way they die. They're going to die anyway, so they view it as preferable to die killing incarnations of absolute evil than just rotting away, or going crazy and murdering the people they care about.

Exactly. This one actually seems like a highly responsible thing to do, not fanatical. If I knew I was going to go insane and die horribly, putting everyone around me in extreme danger, I'd run away too. In fact, it's admirable that they don't sic themselves on rival clans.

or Aiel Clan chiefs who tear their faces off when they see their past,

Yeah, this one's a little weird, but like you said, it's at least somewhat understandable. I guess it'd be like finding out your ancestors were all mass-murderers. I still can't see ripping your face off, but given the way they're raised, I dunno.


or Aes Sedai who decide to stay in a ter'angreal for the 'better life'.

Here I think the exact opposite. That test is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Anybody with a half decent sense of responsibility should stay in that ter'angreal. Seriously, imagine that you're wife is in labour and you've got to drive her to the hospital. Suddenly you hear voices in your head that tell you to abandon them behind and go running into a bright glowing doorway that only you can see. You actually respect people who ditch their responsibilities to follow their own insanity more than those who realise what their priorities are?


I think I disagree with both of you here. It's not fanatical at all, but I think on some level, the candidates know that it's all fake, and that it's giving in or giving up to stick around. I don't understand Sidious' or Sheriam's strong feelings on the matter though. I can see scorning them a bit, maybe, but such hatred and anger? I don't really get it.
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I think the Amayar are the stupidest people ever Lordling - 30/06/2010 08:52:45 PM 2087 Views
It's the Jones Town massacre darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 09:33:42 PM 783 Views
Re: It's the Jones Town massacre orius - 03/07/2010 09:27:35 AM 784 Views
yeah, I despise fanatics of any type Sidious - 30/06/2010 09:44:08 PM 927 Views
Can't agree with all of those. Fanatic-Templar - 30/06/2010 10:58:25 PM 886 Views
Yeah, I disagree too... Gher - 01/07/2010 02:28:13 AM 872 Views
Re: Yeah, I disagree too... Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 03:20:30 AM 698 Views
I'm not sure. Gher - 01/07/2010 03:45:44 AM 793 Views
Difficult to say. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 05:09:46 AM 754 Views
Curse you, I had to go look up Nynaeve's Testing. Gher - 01/07/2010 06:20:06 PM 798 Views
Nope, still can't agree. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:40:25 PM 697 Views
I'm not going to argue that it's a good test Gher - 01/07/2010 08:51:31 PM 645 Views
Re: I'm not going to argue that it's a good test Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:26:24 PM 730 Views
IMO, they do. Gher - 02/07/2010 12:22:41 AM 698 Views
Okay different angle, Fanatic-Templar - 02/07/2010 12:27:57 AM 590 Views
Re: Okay different angle, Gher - 03/07/2010 08:29:09 PM 698 Views
Re: Okay different angle, Fanatic-Templar - 03/07/2010 09:28:20 PM 592 Views
You really don't remember your dreams very often? Gher - 03/07/2010 11:41:57 PM 684 Views
Haven't since I was a wee little kid. Fanatic-Templar - 04/07/2010 12:54:11 AM 786 Views
Re: Haven't since I was a wee little kid. Gher - 05/07/2010 06:02:24 AM 593 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 05/07/2010 06:59:09 AM 638 Views
Chipping in... fionwe1987 - 04/07/2010 01:11:26 AM 681 Views
Re: Chipping in... Fanatic-Templar - 04/07/2010 02:44:21 AM 792 Views
Re: Chipping in... fionwe1987 - 05/07/2010 09:16:51 AM 793 Views
You may be right. Fanatic-Templar - 05/07/2010 05:53:21 PM 686 Views
Fair enough Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:53:05 AM 887 Views
Owyn helped his village? Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 11:23:37 AM 710 Views
Yeah Sidious - 01/07/2010 12:31:03 PM 750 Views
Easier than you think Rurouni_Kenshin - 01/07/2010 12:42:39 PM 646 Views
Yes, I suppose they could. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:16:38 PM 750 Views
Human beings have a pretty large capacity for "stupid" behavior RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/06/2010 09:47:27 PM 706 Views
I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 10:30:06 PM 700 Views
Re: I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life DomA - 01/07/2010 01:39:50 AM 806 Views
and those crazy comet people in San Diego in the late 90's too! darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:49:59 PM 697 Views
Perhaps. krassos - 30/06/2010 10:23:42 PM 710 Views
IMO that makes them even worse! darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 10:33:03 PM 660 Views
Considering that their system of belief... krassos - 30/06/2010 11:55:12 PM 636 Views
But they could have played a part Singing, just like the Tinkers to which they're related may do *NM* Lordling - 01/07/2010 09:08:46 AM 362 Views
Because their feeble ability to sing to crops would really come in handy. krassos - 01/07/2010 05:43:03 PM 798 Views
There are other SOngs than seed-singing. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:26:54 PM 696 Views
Even if there are. They've been lost. And humanity has lost that Talent. krassos - 01/07/2010 10:28:30 PM 574 Views
Only second-hand. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:49:58 PM 849 Views
the Tinkers will at least make themselves useful as we saw in the BoEF darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:49:08 PM 651 Views
The Tinkers are also on the mainland... krassos - 01/07/2010 05:36:40 PM 568 Views
to be fair, if I were an Amayar I would try to respawn as well *NM* BlackAdder - 01/07/2010 04:29:02 AM 657 Views
Take it from a lazy person's PoV: KOuellette - 01/07/2010 10:51:07 AM 739 Views
LOL *NM* darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:53:31 PM 307 Views
You know... Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:42:41 PM 671 Views
But something of you still contiunes on. krassos - 01/07/2010 10:30:12 PM 613 Views
Indeed Sidious - 01/07/2010 10:37:03 PM 609 Views
None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes? Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:54:30 PM 634 Views
Re: None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes? Sidious - 02/07/2010 12:01:35 AM 588 Views
Well, yes, but that's only temporary . Fanatic-Templar - 02/07/2010 12:27:07 AM 752 Views
From my perspective, that is meaningless. Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 10:52:22 PM 571 Views
Given how often Prophecies are right in that world... Gher - 01/07/2010 02:33:21 AM 646 Views
They should work to ensure there's a place to be reborn in. Lohikaarme - 01/07/2010 08:10:46 PM 564 Views
Yeah, pretty crazy Etzel - 01/07/2010 01:17:33 PM 655 Views
Why? Nolan - 01/07/2010 03:20:36 PM 627 Views
Presumably, Fanatic-Templar - 01/07/2010 06:45:02 PM 684 Views
Clear something up for me. Palatine - 01/07/2010 06:33:07 PM 636 Views
They aren't. krassos - 01/07/2010 10:35:38 PM 582 Views
Re: They aren't. lyringlas - 06/07/2010 03:42:40 PM 599 Views
The Amayar suck, but people believe crazy things newyorkersedai - 01/07/2010 09:22:45 PM 828 Views
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