Yeah this horse has been beaten to death quite thoroughly I think. However, just because RJ said the culprit being Moridin because of the wording "death took him" would be hokey doesn't mean it could be him for the other reasons I stated. I'm not sold on really any ideas I have read, but I did want to throw out something a little differnt. I have read a hundred Graendal, Sammael, Lanfear, and many other charecter theories, I guess I hadn't stumbled upon the Moridin/Shaidar Haran ones yet I'm not really even sold on my idea, I just thought Moridin for the reasons I stated would make him as good a culprit as any. Maybe give some folks a new thought or two...Lets face it though, how many theories are here all about the same 10 things that have been beaten absolutely to death??? You are totally right on that point. Lol at least I m not posting theories about questions already answered huh?