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Re: Look... DomA Send a noteboard - 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM
The idea was to reach from inside the Pattern a place outside the Pattern. This was done by drilling a hole through that thinness in the Pattern (probably the thinness was already made by the DO), like a Gateway is made by men or TP users. This special "corridor/Gate" was called the Bore. It makes sense that it is a OP weave, if one can sense it.

That Unravelling is possible was unknown in the AoL. Probably the DO also blocked the Bore open once it was created, so one couldn't simply close the Bore.

I think it definitely makes sense that - if the Pattern made the Dragon the strongest and most able channeler on the world - that the OP will also somehow play a part in defeating the DO in the end. But we will see!


That's because you think of the DO/TP as a specific location outside the Pattern, and you assume that the goal sought by Beidomon's team is in truth the Bore.

Personally, I think the bore is what it got called after the fact only, and Beidomon's team sought to thin the pattern so the other source of energy all around it go be tapped into by humans. I don't think it would make any sense to OP scientists to think of a source like the True Source as being in a specific place beyond the pattern.

In any case, we know from Jordan himself that the AOLers called "the bore" is a global weakness that affects the whole Pattern. It's not really a matter for debate.

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How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? newyorkersedai - 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM 1595 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? scooter - 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM 888 Views
.. *NM* Demortae - 25/06/2010 05:38:14 AM 479 Views
Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM 920 Views
Re: Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. scooter - 30/06/2010 03:18:32 AM 870 Views
Why can't the Pattern be the Prison? LoialT - 25/06/2010 05:52:31 AM 959 Views
Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania bobsledai - 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM 987 Views
I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM* Deadsy - 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM 448 Views
Thanks *NM* bobsledai - 25/06/2010 01:44:35 PM 445 Views
Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh Insomdeon - 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM 893 Views
Nice catch! bobsledai - 25/06/2010 04:28:08 PM 850 Views
The Aiel's insistance is not baseless. They know why they say it is evil. CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 06:01:08 PM 892 Views
You might be right, but the other idea is far more interesting. *NM* Deadsy - 25/06/2010 10:18:37 PM 423 Views
Slayer seems quite inhuman and he's been in TAR in the flesh a lot Rurouni_Kenshin - 26/06/2010 04:29:24 AM 717 Views
true, but he's also be transformed in some unknown way. Not sure he really counts as human darius_sedai - 26/06/2010 05:46:46 PM 924 Views
My idea Etzel - 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM 842 Views
Re: My idea Demortae - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM 782 Views
If the Bore is like a Gateway... LoialT - 25/06/2010 06:19:44 PM 885 Views
Pretty good thought about the conduit-comparison! Etzel - 26/06/2010 07:34:16 AM 779 Views
Re: My idea DomA - 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM 868 Views
The very name "Bore"... Etzel - 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM 823 Views
Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion Sidious - 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM 735 Views
Well, as said, I disagree. Etzel - 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM 800 Views
Well here's what I think Sidious - 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM 1052 Views
Look... Etzel - 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM 763 Views
Re: Look... DomA - 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM 848 Views
That's wrong... Etzel - 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM 956 Views
You're ignoring basic facts Sidious - 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM 809 Views
Again... Etzel - 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM 827 Views
Re: Again... Deadsy - 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM 834 Views
No, the Bore was drilled through that specific thinness in the Pattern. Etzel - 26/06/2010 03:54:51 PM 848 Views
Yeah.... DomA - 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM 852 Views
It's absurd. Your idea is clearly wrong, but ok... *NM* Etzel - 26/06/2010 05:00:43 PM 750 Views
After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: bobsledai - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM 944 Views
Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: DomA - 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM 991 Views
Could the Bore have been drilled using balefire? Fanatic-Templar - 02/07/2010 12:07:33 AM 796 Views
it's the same principle as shielding a channeler darius_sedai - 26/06/2010 06:06:04 PM 854 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? Evil_Monkey - 25/06/2010 03:37:25 PM 693 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? Demortae - 25/06/2010 04:12:08 PM 808 Views
I tend to agree with you CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 05:53:53 PM 856 Views
Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum. *NM* CatherineSedai - 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 460 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? DomA - 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM 896 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? MissKoalaVB - 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM 816 Views
me too ! Deadsy - 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM 841 Views
Ah, thanks to both of you DomA - 26/06/2010 12:38:14 AM 972 Views
Re: Ah, thanks to both of you Deadsy - 26/06/2010 03:18:47 AM 864 Views
It sounds similar to one of the noisy environmental problem in RJ's time redhand - 27/06/2010 02:22:27 AM 811 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? Demortae - 25/06/2010 11:27:18 PM 780 Views
Callandor may be able to channel 'order' via ta'veren Matrimony Cauthon - 26/06/2010 12:48:18 AM 959 Views
additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols newyorkersedai - 26/06/2010 05:44:06 AM 807 Views
Re: additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols Demortae - 26/06/2010 05:23:16 PM 682 Views
You mix up DomA - 27/06/2010 06:31:27 PM 727 Views
good point newyorkersedai - 02/07/2010 05:52:49 PM 1099 Views
duct tape *NM* Deadsy - 26/06/2010 11:17:54 AM 405 Views
Re: duct tape Demortae - 26/06/2010 05:41:56 PM 739 Views
I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. CatherineSedai - 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM 908 Views
Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM 702 Views
Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else? The Angry Druid - 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM 755 Views
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