It was not at him directly that she struck this time. It was at his link to saidin.
Panic rang the Void like a gong at the first knife-sharp
touch, the Power diminishing as it slid deeper between him and the Source. With Spirit and Fire and Earth he cut at the knife blade; he knew where to find it; he knew where his link was, could feel that first nick.
Her attempted shield vanished, reappeared, returned as fast as he could cut it, but always with that momentary ebbing of saidin, moments when it almost failed, leaving his counterstroke barely enough to foil her attack.
Handling two weaves at once should have been easy-he could handle ten or more-but not when one was a desperate defense against something he could not know was there until it was almost too late.
Lanfear is not able to cut him off from the Source at this point, and this despite Rand being untrained and not at his full strength yet.
I rest my case.
Panic rang the Void like a gong at the first knife-sharp
touch, the Power diminishing as it slid deeper between him and the Source. With Spirit and Fire and Earth he cut at the knife blade; he knew where to find it; he knew where his link was, could feel that first nick.
Her attempted shield vanished, reappeared, returned as fast as he could cut it, but always with that momentary ebbing of saidin, moments when it almost failed, leaving his counterstroke barely enough to foil her attack.
Handling two weaves at once should have been easy-he could handle ten or more-but not when one was a desperate defense against something he could not know was there until it was almost too late.
Lanfear is not able to cut him off from the Source at this point, and this despite Rand being untrained and not at his full strength yet.
I rest my case.
Isn't that (I don't have my books with me to check) after she picks up the Angreal Moiraine purposely left on the wagon?
Nynaeve says that you cannot shield someone if they are already holding the source unless you are much stronger than they are. And Nynaeve is talking about shielding someone of the same sex.
RJ says it is much harder to shield someone of the opposite sex. So clearly your strength advantage will have to be even greater.
Is Lanfear even 1% stronger than Lews Therin?
The answer to that is obviously no. Therefore it goes without saying that it is impossible for Lanfear to shield Lews Therin at his full strength and full knowledge level.
There can be no doubt about that.
No three women could block him from the Source...
15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM
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I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM
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I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him
15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM
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Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM
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Huh?
15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM
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Re: Huh?
15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM
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15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM
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Re:
15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM
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No, this is before.
15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM
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Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin
15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM
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I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding.
15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM
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Simple answer to settle it:
15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM
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So Talaan is God?
15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM
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It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage
15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM
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So?
15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM
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Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean...
15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM
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You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right?
15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM
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Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai
15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM
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Lanfear can do it alone
15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM
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She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet...
15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM
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Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her.
15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM
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She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air.
15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM
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Bah!
15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM
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I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are...
15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM
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Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her.
15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM
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It becomes a battle of skill then...
15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM
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Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone
15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM
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Oh come on...
15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM
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I know you are not that ignorant...
15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM
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But that isn't true...
15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM
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Let me spell it out for you...
15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM
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Re: Let me spell it out for you...
15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM
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+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman.
15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM
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Now that's a ridiculous comparison
15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM
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Touchy point, heh?
15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM
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Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him.
15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM
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Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate?
15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM
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If you wish...
15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM
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Re: If you wish...
15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM
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Whyever not?
15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM
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Re: Whyever not?
15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM
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Even in that situation
15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM
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Re: Even in that situation
15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM
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Okay...
15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM
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Re: Okay...
15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM
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So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM*
15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM
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What?
15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM
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If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM*
15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM
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Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements.
15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM
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Okay, here's what I think you're saying...
15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM
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Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire...
15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM
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It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM*
16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM
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Re: No three women could block him from the Source...
16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM
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I disagree.
16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM
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I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could
17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM
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Agreed
17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM
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They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength
17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM
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They would be far more than 3 average AS
17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM
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Another related quote
18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM
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well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass
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