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I'm not disagreeing with most of it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/06/2010 01:49:54 PM
Demandred has probably several groups/nations under his control (but Graendal didn't figure it out):

Murandy, most of the Dragonsworn bands and possibly Tarabon. This could make Demandred one of the most successful Forsaken to create chaos. He even stated in this quote from WH that he is "working together" with Semirhage & Mesaana to defeat opponents. We know that there was apparently contact between Masema and Suroth. Similarly, I think it's possible that the new installed King of Tarabon worked with the Seanchan, because of Demandred's orders (though if he is under Demandred's control, he might now turn against the Seanchan, after Semirhage is gone).


I'd just be surprised if Demandred had his fingers as far out as Seanchan controlled Tarabon. IMO that's putting him into Semirhage's sphere of influence. And we know he wasn't there prior to that since Moghedien wasn't afraid of going to Tanchico.

I do think he could have easily been behind the Dragonsworn, throughout that region. But I'd be surprised if any of the FS did more than just get that ball rolling, sort of like what Sammael did with the Shaido.

I could also see crediting Graendal for the Dragonsworn along the entire west coast of the continent though. She seems to have influenced events from Arad Domon south into at least Almoth Plain by using Ituralde. Her manipulations could have ignited even Tarabon and Moghedien was having meetings with her at about the right time too.

As I stated before I'm in the Demandred is Reodran (or someone close to him) camp. Given the other FS track record I'm not holding my breath that he's going to be any more impressive than the others have been thus far.
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Signing reports Etzel - 06/06/2010 07:30:37 PM 2006 Views
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BS said Demandred's identity is the greatest secret in the story, and will pay off in the end... Shannow - 06/06/2010 08:05:51 PM 1285 Views
militarily perhaps, but not a duel Sidious - 07/06/2010 04:56:55 AM 1062 Views
Re: militarily perhaps, but not a duel darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 01:34:04 PM 858 Views
Re: militarily perhaps, but not a duel Sidious - 07/06/2010 04:17:26 PM 931 Views
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Bah Sidious - 07/06/2010 04:38:36 PM 943 Views
Oh no Lanfear will go down in a mouth foaming insane moment darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 07:04:23 PM 8856 Views
Skilled Rand would be nice. Datakim - 07/06/2010 09:24:56 PM 770 Views
I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:41:47 PM 765 Views
Re: I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out Datakim - 07/06/2010 10:00:44 PM 903 Views
You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS" darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 10:08:49 PM 922 Views
Re: You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS" Datakim - 07/06/2010 10:22:11 PM 822 Views
Moridin IMO will be all Rand's to deal with darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 10:56:28 PM 757 Views
Moridin vs Rand will likely not be an OP fight. Datakim - 07/06/2010 11:06:16 PM 825 Views
I think it'll be OP v.TP darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 11:59:38 PM 828 Views
Nice thinking newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 06:16:15 PM 946 Views
I think Demandred might be... Etzel - 07/06/2010 09:48:29 AM 880 Views
I favor the Roederan theory darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 01:35:37 PM 893 Views
Murandy would certainly make the most sense... Etzel - 07/06/2010 02:06:34 PM 769 Views
Not sure about Masema, but the rest I think is likely darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 02:11:32 PM 981 Views
I have this feeling that Elaida is going to surprise us, and Demandred is in Caemlyn... fionwe1987 - 06/06/2010 08:33:16 PM 1040 Views
Meh. I think Elaida will end up like other women in the series who sucked darius_sedai - 06/06/2010 10:56:47 PM 928 Views
While Traveling is certainly a tactical advantage, I think the Seanchan won't be able to use it. DREWRULESWOT! - 06/06/2010 11:15:56 PM 824 Views
A hundred gateways next to each other is as good as one giant gateway... Shannow - 06/06/2010 11:36:48 PM 934 Views
but no carts or wagons. darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 12:15:29 AM 940 Views
Fully supplied armies could be moved Knightscape - 07/06/2010 02:45:15 AM 920 Views
you are missing the point that this would create several major problems darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 01:49:08 PM 889 Views
Advantages and Disadvantages to both large and small gateways Knightscape - 08/06/2010 03:04:28 AM 884 Views
The logistics would be practically impossible, as even RJ stated (see quote below) darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 01:41:03 PM 867 Views
But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... Night Walker - 07/06/2010 02:45:26 AM 937 Views
Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 01:52:40 PM 901 Views
Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... Night Walker - 07/06/2010 06:55:59 PM 744 Views
Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 07:03:29 PM 843 Views
Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... Night Walker - 07/06/2010 07:48:01 PM 763 Views
Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... Underwood - 07/06/2010 08:22:23 PM 891 Views
Double Post -Sorry - NM! *NM* Underwood - 07/06/2010 08:22:23 PM 389 Views
We have no clue if Damane can tie off weaves darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 08:28:08 PM 848 Views
Re: We have no clue if Damane can tie off weaves Night Walker - 07/06/2010 09:22:24 PM 904 Views
One disagreement darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:33:09 PM 876 Views
I agree...but Night Walker - 07/06/2010 09:44:54 PM 798 Views
That's just it ... Egwene, Elayne and Rand have already thought of it and considered the uses darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 10:04:50 PM 903 Views
Egwene to pass information? You're joking, right? Skeeve the Great - 07/06/2010 10:59:25 PM 939 Views
He did say it was unlikely BlackAdder - 07/06/2010 11:23:20 PM 988 Views
Thanks! darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 12:02:27 AM 817 Views
Not to mention... fionwe1987 - 07/06/2010 09:26:28 PM 853 Views
Re: Not to mention... Night Walker - 07/06/2010 09:38:31 PM 794 Views
yes, but the cost may prove too high to allocate so many resources against Traveling darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:44:16 PM 772 Views
Something from RJ Datakim - 07/06/2010 09:43:16 PM 800 Views
NICE! darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:55:03 PM 652 Views
If they get Traveling, I hope we read the first time the Seanchan move their "creatures" through newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 06:22:47 PM 726 Views
Re: If they get Traveling, I hope we read the first time the Seanchan move their "creatures" through Datakim - 07/06/2010 11:03:22 PM 851 Views
That's a good point darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 12:05:30 AM 841 Views
The little thing is Rand's angreal IMO Sidious - 07/06/2010 04:52:17 AM 798 Views
Rand has a powerful sa'angreal though. Rurouni_Kenshin - 07/06/2010 08:35:06 AM 813 Views
But this was often suggested Etzel - 07/06/2010 10:30:17 AM 852 Views
I think the thing from books 4-6 has to do with dreaming/TAR abilities. TaskmasterJack - 08/06/2010 12:09:53 AM 792 Views
I think BS has inadvertently given away a massive clue regarding Demandred's identity... Shannow - 06/06/2010 09:12:58 PM 991 Views
What's to prevent him from hiding as a female? *NM* BlackAdder - 06/06/2010 10:30:08 PM 378 Views
Forgive me if I don't give that possibility serious consideration. Shannow - 06/06/2010 10:36:20 PM 804 Views
Bc it's clearly way too dissatisfying. And Demmy's certainly too proud to hide as a woman! *NM* newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 01:01:52 AM 445 Views
Not entirely... if he's Egwene that explains a lot BlackAdder - 07/06/2010 02:17:56 AM 834 Views
You misread, IMO newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 12:59:58 AM 944 Views
Thank you yet again, Etzel newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 01:07:02 AM 706 Views
Well. Galgan, then. *NM* StinkerSkunk - 07/06/2010 04:05:57 PM 434 Views
*NM* *NM* StinkerSkunk - 07/06/2010 04:06:38 PM 423 Views
Can't be Galgan Etzel - 07/06/2010 04:37:36 PM 767 Views
See we can agree on stuff *NM* darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 06:35:52 PM 362 Views
Of course, we can. *NM* Etzel - 07/06/2010 07:26:00 PM 371 Views
galgan's out, but maybe... newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 07:01:12 PM 755 Views
Or... Etzel - 08/06/2010 09:37:21 AM 769 Views
I doubt the new Taraboner king is involved darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 12:52:45 PM 1097 Views
As I said, I think... Etzel - 08/06/2010 01:30:39 PM 770 Views
I'm not disagreeing with most of it darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 01:49:54 PM 759 Views
look above, you guys agreed on stuff for 19 hours. New record? *NM* newyorkersedai - 08/06/2010 04:12:47 PM 371 Views
LMAO darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 11:01:57 PM 1032 Views
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