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Egwene and Aviendha combined in TFoH (when Avi had been channeling for only a few months) darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 31/05/2010 09:22:17 PM
The merry go round starts again, does it?

I can only repeat that there are overwhelming indications that Egwene is roughly half as strong as Lanfear, and about two thirds as strong as Nynaeve.

Meaning that if Lanfear has a strength of 100, Nynaeve will have a strength of 75, and Egwene will have a strength of 50.

You choose not to believe that. I will never be able to convince you otherwise. Yet that is what the reasonable man would believe based on the evidence in the books.



Could "overwhelm" Lanfear, at full strength they would each be more like 75-80% of Lanfear ... given that only 6 women in the world are stronger than Nynaeve it is ridiculous to assume she is only a 75, she's much more likely to be a 95 at full strength.

here's another tidbit you keep forgetting. 4 women held a shield on Rand. None of these women were more than "average" AS ... on your scale that would make them no more than 15 or so each ... meaning combined they would be less than 55 (assuming a 10% weakening for link). There is no way they could have held Rand.

Then you look at 3 AS (really 2 and half since 1 is Daigian) held Semirhage, and it takes 2 AS to hold Egwene.

Provide direct quotes. You continue to paraphrase things and spin them to your faulty memory. And I'm not going to engage in a pointless argument with someone who can't even accurately quote the text.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Interesting clues to OP Strength difference between Nynaeve and Elayne/Egwene/Aviendha darius_sedai - 31/05/2010 02:17:06 PM 1217 Views
Re: Interesting clues to OP Strength difference between Nynaeve and Elayne/Egwene/Aviendha DomA - 31/05/2010 04:18:08 PM 801 Views
I don't know. Elayne knows how strong a woman needs to be in order to activate the Bowl. darius_sedai - 31/05/2010 07:51:08 PM 684 Views
Egwene plus Aviendha roughly equal Lanfaer. And yet Lanfear isn't close to double Nynaeve's strength Shannow - 31/05/2010 09:07:06 PM 580 Views
Egwene and Aviendha combined in TFoH (when Avi had been channeling for only a few months) darius_sedai - 31/05/2010 09:22:17 PM 697 Views
We've done this so many times. Even I have lost the strength for it. What can I still muster... Shannow - 31/05/2010 09:38:24 PM 640 Views
again with the interpretive quoting darius_sedai - 31/05/2010 11:05:58 PM 677 Views
Individual interpretation is all we've got really Sidious - 01/06/2010 06:32:05 PM 619 Views
agreed, sort of darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 12:57:00 PM 624 Views
Consider this... Shannow - 04/06/2010 01:21:43 PM 599 Views
You continue to translate things. That is NOT how the quote reads darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 01:30:43 PM 392 Views
Not my fault if the books prove you wrong Shannow - 04/06/2010 01:41:00 PM 523 Views
I'm denying that you have a clue darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 01:51:14 PM 567 Views
Bonfire next to a candle. I rest my case. Shannow - 04/06/2010 01:53:59 PM 445 Views
then Nynaeve is the Creator darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 02:03:27 PM 558 Views
Estimating potential is exact, fragmentary historical notes are not. And RJ disproves your point.. Shannow - 04/06/2010 02:57:32 PM 658 Views
The books disagree with this darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 03:24:46 PM 490 Views
Right, NOW we're getting somewhere... Shannow - 04/06/2010 03:57:32 PM 604 Views
You are hilarious darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 04:06:37 PM 402 Views
Close the door on your way out... Shannow - 04/06/2010 04:21:11 PM 437 Views
no I just refuse to bother with a jackass who doesn't know the text well enough to debate *NM* darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 10:35:09 PM 269 Views
Re: agreed, sort of Sidious - 04/06/2010 04:46:59 PM 1286 Views
Reminds me of some of our ancient debates... Shannow - 04/06/2010 05:03:05 PM 538 Views
this doesn't square in any way with Bell Curve though darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 10:33:04 PM 651 Views
Re: this doesn't square in any way with Bell Curve though Sidious - 04/06/2010 10:56:01 PM 548 Views
It's all good, I do respect your thoughts on this BTW darius_sedai - 04/06/2010 11:28:45 PM 503 Views
No, Rand was not stronger than the male Forsaken at the start of tSR... Shannow - 01/06/2010 09:27:47 AM 539 Views
Aginor burned out attempting to use the Eye, which Rand managed to do without burning out *NM* darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 12:06:01 PM 299 Views
The Eye was just a source of the Power - like a well, just bigger. Shannow - 01/06/2010 12:17:29 PM 564 Views
nope darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 12:52:46 PM 569 Views
You know that is not correct... Shannow - 01/06/2010 01:30:35 PM 599 Views
right or wrong it's in the text! darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 01:47:35 PM 675 Views
Re: I don't know. Elayne knows how strong a woman needs to be in order to activate the Bowl. DomA - 01/06/2010 02:18:38 AM 658 Views
I'm not trying to say that Nynaeve isn't significantly stronger darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 12:44:20 PM 712 Views
If 3 sisters can hold you, it probaly means you are as strong as 4 sisters... Shannow - 01/06/2010 06:37:01 PM 463 Views
Re: I'm not trying to say that Nynaeve isn't significantly stronger Sidious - 01/06/2010 06:43:08 PM 468 Views
Sidenote: What's with Elayne dumping people into the river? beetnemesis - 31/05/2010 06:22:26 PM 493 Views
Not Elayne, Egwene in Cairhien. She went to meet the Windfinder and got kicked out. Wasn't awesome *NM* Lordling - 31/05/2010 07:13:25 PM 378 Views
Re: Interesting clues to OP Strength difference between Nynaeve and Elayne/Egwene/Aviendha Skeeve the Great - 31/05/2010 07:21:32 PM 533 Views
Re: Interesting clues to OP Strength difference between Nynaeve and Elayne/Egwene/Aviendha darius_sedai - 31/05/2010 07:41:02 PM 505 Views
Re: Interesting clues to OP Strength difference between Nynaeve and Elayne/Egwene/Aviendha Skeeve the Great - 01/06/2010 06:07:35 PM 443 Views
Re: Interesting clues to OP Strength difference between Nynaeve and Elayne/Egwene/Aviendha darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 06:21:29 PM 454 Views
Remember gatways Kieran - 31/05/2010 09:15:31 PM 506 Views
I agree that it's probably some kind of max height you can lift an object darius_sedai - 31/05/2010 09:25:25 PM 486 Views
I think lifting people on flows of air is much like weaving bridges. FanEditor10 - 01/06/2010 07:42:59 AM 647 Views
I think you are correct actually. darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 12:53:21 PM 682 Views
Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/06/2010 08:43:33 PM 432 Views
My own thougth was off base! darius_sedai - 01/06/2010 12:54:19 PM 508 Views
I'm pretty convinced that 'strength' really refers to your skill and experience. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/06/2010 08:35:16 PM 598 Views
Strength is a touchy word in this case... FanEditor10 - 03/06/2010 07:31:19 AM 577 Views
Re: Strength is a touchy word in this case... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2010 04:52:33 PM 412 Views
I see effectiveness much the same darius_sedai - 05/06/2010 05:17:57 PM 720 Views
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