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Now... DomA Send a noteboard - 28/05/2010 05:58:57 PM

As for the Finns/Ogier, our ideas are pretty close. My general idea is that people aren't meant to do things like linking by portal and visiting the "If Worlds", the other dimensions (like the ones in which Snakes, Foxes, Ogier live), or even to enter a dimension like Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh, or to build transportation systems in the dimension between worlds, messing up time and space (like the Ways). BY the physical rules of Creation it's possible to do all these things, and apparently someone does at some point every turning of the wheel, but it comes at a price, and yes I think it's an allegory for hubristic science and a nod to what Jordan alluded may have marked the end of our own time (atomic war).

What I think is that by connecting the worlds and opening portals between the worlds, the race who did that in an earlier Age (and I think it is the Finns) have created a "cosmic accident" that has resulted in three main things: First, it has made the Finns abandon the Portal Stones and their other quantum physic experiments. The accident has made the two Finn worlds and the human world collide, and the place where they fused (become fold together) has been circumscribed by making the Tower of Ghenjei. The second effect it caused is to make scattered pieces of another world, the Ogier's, merge randomly with the world of humans. I think stedding are just that: they aren't made, they can't be made. Stedding, and their characteristics, are simply the rules of reality as they are in the Ogier homeworld (no channeller or channelling access, Tree Singing, etc.), and pieces of this world have been translated in another world, with other rules. The most dire effect the accident caused is that it globally weakened the pattern, just enough that Shai'tan's prison could now be sensed. At the end of their own Age, the Aes Sedai fell to hubris either. They started playing with the numbers of chaos they barely undestood, tried to puzzle out how the science of the PS and eventually, Beidomon and Mierin and the others tried to open a portal to this second "True Source" (I think they believed it may be the real true source outside creation, the raw power before it gets divided into saidar and saidin to weave the pattern) and instead of linking this source to the world via a portal, this resulted into the Bore and the Dark One starting to touch Creation. They never really understood what had happened and why, they spent much of the Collapse and the whole WOS trying to understand the nature of the Bore, and how to close it. They even kept making portal to vacuoles, and in the Breaking years they made the Ways.

I think that to repair the Pattern, the portals between worlds will need to be closed down for good (until the next turning). They are part of the "rubble" Rand needs to clear out before the Bore can be repaired, instead of patched the way LTT intended or shielded the way Latra intended.


I think there is another possible consequence here and that is channeling itself. It would make sense that the "collision of worlds" resulted first in a slight weakness that allows the True Source to be sensed by a few individuals. The TS is the "closest" power source b/c it drives the WOT. The use of the TS could further weaken the pattern either through its use (i.e., interacting with the pattern in ways not intended) or by making a small fraction unavailable for the wheel (i.e., the DO can now attack the pattern b/c the wheel only has 99.99999% of the power resources available to the DO - meaning he can weaken the pattern ever so slightly faster than the wheel can fix it) or both.

As the weakness increased it would allow more people to channel and allow for stronger channelers (which was seen in the AOL). Eventually, this would lead to enough thinning that a "farther" source could be sensed, leading to the bore.

Ultimately, this means that not only must contact with the Finns and Ogier get cut off for the pattern to heal, but channeling must be "lost" as well.


I think you just came up with the first "end of channelling" theory that makes sense to me.

I'm not quite convinced we'll see the end of channelling, I always imagined we wouldn't as Jordan has too much invested in the main cast & the one power to leave us in a world where none of that will matter anymore (the closest he might get to that is that more and more it appears massive spectacular channelling won't have the central role in the LB most expected it to have) but if he were to go this way, I would want things to come full circle as you suggest.


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