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As far as I know... Etzel Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 08:38:36 PM

I've thought of this before, but would like someone to show me some evidence to counter or accept it, or generally provide a statement on what you think...

You're tied to a pole. You dream yourself into TAR. You Travel to the place where you've tied yourself. You free yourself.

Is there anything that contradicts this? We know that you can channel and Travel in TAR.


Only the pole would theoretically be reflected in TAR, not youself. And affecting the pole in TAR, wouldn't affect it in the Real World.
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Help me out with a TAR problem Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:10:07 PM 1376 Views
Re: Help me out with a TAR problem Datakim - 26/05/2010 08:28:34 PM 806 Views
No I don't mean that Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:37:27 PM 819 Views
Re: No I don't mean that darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 08:39:42 PM 691 Views
Re: No I don't mean that Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:52:22 PM 595 Views
I'm inclined to think the a'dam stops Dream Walking darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 09:26:20 PM 544 Views
Re: I'm inclined to think the a'dam stops Dream Walking Datakim - 26/05/2010 09:49:24 PM 542 Views
And it seems the woman wearing the bracelet has strange dreams too darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 10:54:26 PM 629 Views
Re: I'm inclined to think the a'dam stops Dream Walking HyogaRott - 27/05/2010 06:46:42 PM 535 Views
I think it would be the latter RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 07:11:17 PM 638 Views
I have a few mundane my reasons as to why Moghedien probably wouldn't and couldn't do that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/05/2010 11:39:14 PM 544 Views
Re: I have a few mundane my reasons as to why Moghedien probably wouldn't and couldn't do that. Datakim - 26/05/2010 11:50:56 PM 514 Views
Re: I have a few mundane my reasons as to why Moghedien probably wouldn't and couldn't do that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 12:06:55 AM 537 Views
Re: I have a few mundane my reasons as to why Moghedien probably wouldn't and couldn't do that. Datakim - 27/05/2010 12:21:53 AM 571 Views
Re: I have a few mundane my reasons as to why Moghedien probably wouldn't and couldn't do that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 02:58:36 PM 581 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 03:21:05 PM 550 Views
Re: I disagree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 07:08:41 PM 599 Views
If she could enter TAR she could drag an AS in with her, compell them and make them take it off darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 07:14:26 PM 645 Views
Re: If she could enter TAR she could drag an AS in with her, compell them and make them take it off RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 09:21:11 PM 738 Views
I think we are saying pretty much the same thing here darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 09:24:37 PM 575 Views
We are close to the same idea, but different in where we think her ability will stop. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 567 Views
*nods* *NM* darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 11:29:10 PM 259 Views
But channelling is not a requirement to enter TAR BlackAdder - 27/05/2010 08:31:21 AM 512 Views
The a'dam affects things in Channelers other than the ability itself darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 01:58:34 PM 691 Views
I don't agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 03:02:08 PM 573 Views
you are misreading me I think darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 03:11:50 PM 707 Views
Re: you are misreading me I think RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 06:30:29 PM 621 Views
Re: you are misreading me I think HyogaRott - 27/05/2010 06:42:36 PM 634 Views
That's the point. darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 06:57:35 PM 594 Views
Re: That's the point. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 07:10:25 PM 562 Views
Re: That's the point. darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 07:16:49 PM 557 Views
We may never know! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 09:21:48 PM 595 Views
I would be very surprised if it came up in the books darius_sedai - 27/05/2010 09:25:29 PM 556 Views
Interesting idea. Datakim - 26/05/2010 09:38:04 PM 521 Views
Fascinating Idea #4 on this thread. Thanks, Sid! *NM* newyorkersedai - 26/05/2010 10:31:48 PM 277 Views
Channeler heal thyself Datakim - 26/05/2010 11:40:25 PM 648 Views
There may be a clue to this in the descriptions of astral projection in comics and psychic studies RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/05/2010 11:59:42 PM 598 Views
Re: Help me out with a TAR problem cmoorejr - 26/05/2010 08:35:49 PM 568 Views
Doesn't work entyti - 26/05/2010 08:37:40 PM 776 Views
we've seen this fail darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 08:38:06 PM 532 Views
I don't mean that Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:39:32 PM 516 Views
I'd say you either die or just wake up if you tried that darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 08:40:31 PM 527 Views
As far as I know... Etzel - 26/05/2010 08:38:36 PM 559 Views
This could work DomA - 26/05/2010 08:43:21 PM 742 Views
Thanks Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:51:17 PM 569 Views
Re: Thanks DomA - 26/05/2010 09:12:10 PM 530 Views
So I think this disproves it newyorkersedai - 26/05/2010 08:49:55 PM 807 Views
Is that really true? Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:53:45 PM 594 Views
Sid, I made some edits, but really nothing's certain. Look again, pls. *NM* newyorkersedai - 26/05/2010 08:55:30 PM 288 Views
I would generally agree with your edits Sidious - 26/05/2010 08:57:32 PM 552 Views
yes and no darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 09:31:53 PM 470 Views
Re: yes and no Datakim - 26/05/2010 09:55:46 PM 505 Views
5+ entries for "Book 4-6 Thing " now... Funny that we wrote slight variations simultaneously newyorkersedai - 26/05/2010 10:24:03 PM 505 Views
well Moghedien somehow managed to create a whole Body for Birgitte darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 10:36:45 PM 558 Views
Could Rahvin turn Rand into a fishman if he was just there in Spirit? newyorkersedai - 26/05/2010 10:19:05 PM 528 Views
And I agree with your response newyorkersedai - 26/05/2010 09:49:00 PM 528 Views
You have to enter TAR in the Flesh to leave it in the Flesh. krassos - 26/05/2010 10:06:02 PM 648 Views
Re: You have to enter TAR in the Flesh to leave it in the Flesh. darius_sedai - 26/05/2010 10:57:06 PM 519 Views
The short answer to Birgitte krassos - 27/05/2010 02:37:13 AM 525 Views
I think this is possible. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/05/2010 11:28:51 PM 576 Views
Dream gateway! Datakim - 27/05/2010 12:05:31 AM 515 Views
I think the problem is that you can only channel Spirit through your T'A'R form RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/05/2010 03:05:13 PM 504 Views
if you dream yourself into T'A'R then you're just a creation of your own mind Jim - 27/05/2010 12:02:38 AM 504 Views
aren't we all? *NM* newyorkersedai - 27/05/2010 12:04:08 AM 237 Views
if that was true you couldn't die in T'A'R Foxhead - 27/05/2010 12:08:10 AM 488 Views
Why not? krassos - 27/05/2010 03:41:10 PM 625 Views
if it's just a creation of your mind? Foxhead - 27/05/2010 04:03:29 PM 565 Views
is it possible to Travel in T'A'R when dreaming? Foxhead - 27/05/2010 12:06:57 AM 517 Views
I don't think anybody has said this before... Fanatic-Templar - 27/05/2010 04:01:28 AM 601 Views
Your real body can only channel Spirit. Gher - 27/05/2010 05:25:08 AM 605 Views
Yes, but you need real One Power to affect the real world. Fanatic-Templar - 27/05/2010 06:46:21 AM 594 Views
Yes, I agree with that, but I was mostly just replying to your question about sleep-channeling. Gher - 27/05/2010 06:56:18 AM 509 Views
The only real situation we have to compare... Fanatic-Templar - 27/05/2010 06:59:51 AM 500 Views
That's a weird situation. Gher - 27/05/2010 07:09:21 AM 555 Views
Well, yes. The Birgitte situation can't be compared directly to Sidious' Fanatic-Templar - 27/05/2010 08:01:38 AM 564 Views
Re: The only real situation we have to compare... HyogaRott - 27/05/2010 07:11:45 PM 603 Views
If something that didn't exist before existed after... Fanatic-Templar - 27/05/2010 08:58:55 PM 546 Views
Re: If something that didn't exist before existed after... HyogaRott - 28/05/2010 02:09:01 PM 606 Views
Actually I don't think so.. darius_sedai - 28/05/2010 02:31:27 PM 507 Views
Plus, their ability to affect reality comes from the magic of the Horn of Valere. Fanatic-Templar - 28/05/2010 06:14:21 PM 442 Views
your dream self couldn't exit TAR... Onarishma - 27/05/2010 06:39:26 AM 556 Views
TAR constructs cannot leave it. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2010 04:57:12 PM 717 Views
Not just constructs ... anything reflected in TAR cannot leave it ... Shishka - 27/05/2010 10:05:37 PM 686 Views
Re: Help me out with a TAR problem HyogaRott - 27/05/2010 06:58:18 PM 506 Views
shucks everyone already thought of this... *NM* HyogaRott - 27/05/2010 07:08:50 PM 246 Views
problem solved... sort of? lummox - 28/05/2010 02:48:13 AM 634 Views
I agree with those saying that if you don't physically enter TAR... TaskmasterJack - 29/05/2010 09:32:40 PM 568 Views
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