IMO, it also doesn't seem to make much sense that the especially careful Graendal would stroll through the basement of the mostly empty Caemlyn palace - with no servants there - without any disguise, but of course balefire prepared (though for some reason not inverted), since the possibility remained that instead of Asmo, e.g. Rand had opened the door to see her (and we know that the last Graendal wants is to confront Rand in his territory).
1. Why would she bother with a disguise in a place no one would recognize her anyway? Just like at the Cleansing she was simply strolling around the forest with no disguise.
On the other hand, Graendal used a MoM when she visits the Shaido or in her own palace. Asmo and possibly Rand might even recognize her (as Asmo did, if this theory is correct). Assume e.g. if by chance Asmo was accompanied by Rand, Graendal would be toast. It's unlikely that she would risk this, just for inspecting the ground floor of the palace.
2. Why are you assuming she didn't invert the weaves? Seems much more likely that she did since no once felt anything at Asmo's death. Asmo wouldn't have needed to feel the weaves being prepared to know she was about to kill him ... all he had to see was her raise her hand to release it and he would have screamed.
But then Graendal could also use somewhat stronger balefire, without someone noticing it, which would again be the sole reason then to prevent the DO from transmigrating Asmo.
3. Graendal seems the most likely of the FS to do something like this, we know that she later rummaged through Sammael's stuff in Illian ... I don't think we've seen any of the others do something like this.
Besides that this Illian visit happened a few books after Asmo's murder, Graendal did this because she definitely knew about Sammael's impressive stuff.
Asmo also wasn't killed in Rahvin's quarters, but in the ground floor of the palace. There was no sensible reason for Graendal to be there.
Besides that, Moiraine apparently used very weak balefire, but it was obviously still strong enough to prevent a transmigration of Be'lal. A Forsaken like Graendal should per se use stronger balefire, especially if she might confront her arch-enemy or a Forsaken rival, precisely to exclude that the DO might perform a transmigration. And if her balefire was nevertheless just minimal, the DO could transmigrate Asmo everywhere, according to RJ's words on balefire.
To explain the how- and where-factors with balefire would mean that RJ basically said that - by chance - balefire in such an amount was used that, if Graendal had theoretically killed Asmo at SG, the DO still could have transmigrated him. This "not at SG-location" doesn't really fit a concrete and sensible where-factor, because SG was anyway never in question to be the location of Asmo's murder.
4. Why did the weave have to be balefire? She could have used a number of nasty weaves to kill him quickly and simply disposed of his body in TAR or AD etc... The DO isn't likely to transmigrate a complete turn-coat in any case so it doesn't seem like that BF is the only reason Asmo isn't back!
One has to explain the how and where-factor as the reasons why - according to RJ - the DO couldn't bring Asmo back, even if he wanted.
I am determined to prove, before it's revealed, that Lanfear killed Asmodean.
- 26/05/2010 05:36:59 AM
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It's unlikely
- 26/05/2010 09:17:06 AM
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Re: It's unlikely
- 26/05/2010 02:04:08 PM
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Well...
- 26/05/2010 03:09:38 PM
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A few points
- 26/05/2010 03:50:12 PM
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Re: A few points
- 26/05/2010 04:07:15 PM
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Re: A few points
- 26/05/2010 04:23:39 PM
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Re: A few points
- 26/05/2010 05:26:27 PM
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Actually I believe...
- 26/05/2010 06:00:55 PM
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Re: Actually I believe...
- 26/05/2010 07:04:51 PM
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I think...
- 26/05/2010 07:35:16 PM
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Re: I think...
- 26/05/2010 07:47:19 PM
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IMO, the difference is that Ishy was strongly connected to the DO, when he died in TAR. *NM*
- 26/05/2010 07:55:47 PM
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Re: IMO, the difference is that Ishy was strongly connected to the DO, when he died in TAR.
- 26/05/2010 08:25:36 PM
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But Ishy channeled the TP; thus the DO was more aware of him in TAR. *NM*
- 26/05/2010 08:33:45 PM
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I don't see how that really makes a difference
- 26/05/2010 08:43:58 PM
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At least Asmo didn't channel the TP, when he died; this could be the difference to Ishy. *NM*
- 26/05/2010 08:46:44 PM
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Re: At least Asmo didn't channel the TP, when he died; this could be the difference to Ishy.
- 26/05/2010 09:23:10 PM
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Well, the TP is not related to who killed Asmo, in my view
- 26/05/2010 09:34:42 PM
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That doesn't make sense
- 26/05/2010 09:40:10 PM
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That has nothing to do with the identity of the killer.
- 26/05/2010 09:56:18 PM
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I still think you are making this more convluted than it needs to be
- 26/05/2010 10:21:26 PM
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You confuse two things...
- 27/05/2010 09:46:56 AM
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But your theory completely relies on this thought
- 27/05/2010 11:48:48 AM
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I argue...
- 27/05/2010 12:20:09 PM
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we don't know any of that until WH
- 27/05/2010 12:49:53 PM
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Your explanation how the "where" is significant matches what I've been saying for awhile, too. *NM*
- 29/05/2010 09:49:02 PM
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You disregard Jordan's explanations about the Finns... and some others...
- 26/05/2010 12:50:30 PM
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I'm 80% sure it's Graendal, with 20% left over for Moghedien
- 26/05/2010 02:00:09 PM
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Moghedien would be quite the trick
- 26/05/2010 02:17:57 PM
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Re: Moghedien would be quite the trick
- 26/05/2010 02:26:23 PM
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Re: Moghedien would be quite the trick
- 26/05/2010 03:06:49 PM
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Yep. More impressive than the guy who was killed by a shepherd, right? =)
- 27/05/2010 03:44:07 PM
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