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true, but she's changed a little since becoming Moridin's slave darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 01:39:44 PM
I actually think she has both skills at surviving in the real world and skills with certain channeling feats, but lacks the personal characteristics to put her in the uppermost echelons of an organization such as the Forsaken.

She is much more pragmatic and clear-cut in her thinking because of her personal quirks, and this leads her to mastering channeling skills favoring applying channeling abilities to real world applications.

For example, her use of Compulsion to punish Liandrin was masterful - minimal effort, no vast, mind-destroying bludgeon of Spirit, just a simple command and she made a much more deadly, problematic tool than any Sammael, Rahvin or Graendal had.

Another example, in the same scene, she used a complicated web to Shield Liandrin from the Source, which could only be undone by a Forsaken, which Liandrin was assured of not meeting by any ordinary occurrence.

Finally, she spied on a room full of Forsaken without being caught, and there were a number of heavy hitters who could have or should have noticed her. If she had a different mentality, she could have crushed one or more of them during their use of T'A'R, but she's always preferred to be less obvious.

She's one of the few Forsaken that I think is a real threat, because of her strategies. If she were a different type of person, she would have imprisoned Rand without him realizing it with a minimum of fuss - the only thing that prevented it were those pesky girls that protect him (said with an evil villains' voice). BTW did any of them ever let Rand know that they faced and imprisoned Moghedien? It would be one less thing for him to worry about.


at least nothing any of the other FS couldn't have pulled off had they the same mentality as Moghedien. Lanfear also spied unseen on a gathering of FS in TAR, and kept Egwene hidden from them too... Graendal has shown exceptional skill with the "lesser" forms of Compulsion. Really all the women have shown a certain degree of subtlety that non of the men have shown.

Basically I agree that she is VERY resourceful, but not any more skilled in the OP than the others. What she did to Liandrin wasn't about skill it was about being smart!

I also agree that she has much more threat potential than the more flamboyant FS because she's going to kill you without your even knowing you were being attacked.


My problem with Moghedien is that she never actually makes the kill. As Birgitte says, a chance is not enough for Moghedien, she must have certain victory. Considering this is so rare in any situation, I don't see her ever committing herself to killing one of the other Forsaken. She would think constantly about what would go wrong. She might stand next to Lanfear's bed for hours with a knife in her hand, but tremble in fear and run away before actually stabbing her. She's probably the only one who could actually get next to Lanfear's bed, but she's also the only one of the 13 who wouldn't do anything about it. Look at how she spied on Siuan and Nynaeve, but didn't make the move, not until she was sure Nynaeve had seen her.


She took the shot at Nynaeve in Ebou Dar after all.
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Does shielding go away when the shielder dies? - 21/05/2010 04:51:52 AM 1691 Views
Her shield was tied off so No - 21/05/2010 05:23:46 AM 402 Views
I agree with that guy ^ - 21/05/2010 06:44:13 AM 402 Views
Regarding her shield - 21/05/2010 03:03:41 PM 471 Views
Moghedien also seems to have had this skill, which makes sense since she is more skilled than Asmo - 21/05/2010 05:27:43 PM 371 Views
Is Mogs more skilled than Asmo or was it Nyn being less skilled than Lanfear? - 21/05/2010 06:32:47 PM 376 Views
I think Moghedien is very skilled but lacks the motivation or desire to be openly aggressive - 21/05/2010 09:24:40 PM 338 Views
I'm of two minds there - 22/05/2010 12:40:10 AM 359 Views
I don't think she's skilled at shielding - 22/05/2010 07:30:23 AM 1545 Views
I tend to agree with you - 22/05/2010 02:07:03 PM 353 Views
But Ishamael was killed by a shepherd and Lanfear was tackled by a midget. - 24/05/2010 06:30:08 PM 328 Views
good points - 24/05/2010 08:37:28 PM 333 Views
I have a different opinion of Moghedien. - 24/05/2010 10:42:30 PM 361 Views
I don't really agree - 25/05/2010 08:01:29 AM 315 Views
Re: I don't really agree - 25/05/2010 03:01:37 PM 328 Views
Re: I have a different opinion of Moghedien. - 25/05/2010 05:38:22 PM 313 Views
I don't like her personality, but I like her character way more than Moridin and others! - 25/05/2010 08:03:39 PM 317 Views
I guess what I'm saying is that I think what you are talking about isn't really OP skill IMO - 25/05/2010 11:21:58 PM 316 Views
Re: I guess what I'm saying is that I think what you are talking about isn't really OP skill IMO - 26/05/2010 05:06:29 AM 313 Views
true, but she's changed a little since becoming Moridin's slave - 26/05/2010 01:39:44 PM 304 Views
Re: true, but she's changed a little since becoming Moridin's slave - 26/05/2010 05:14:17 PM 309 Views
I had that same thought - 26/05/2010 09:34:09 PM 293 Views
Re: Regarding her shield - 21/05/2010 05:58:49 PM 345 Views
Re: Her shield was tied off so No - 21/05/2010 05:36:57 PM 369 Views
Re: Her shield was tied off so No - 21/05/2010 06:03:15 PM 345 Views
Re: Her shield was tied off so No - 21/05/2010 06:36:35 PM 359 Views
Re: Her shield was tied off so No - 21/05/2010 06:49:58 PM 367 Views
Depends - 21/05/2010 03:00:27 PM 415 Views

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