Re: Asmodean knows that the forsaken are probably gunning for him.
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 21/05/2010 03:39:00 PM
He knew who slayer was. He also knew that you dont want to be seeing slayer. He knows what seeing slayer means for him.
Or that they had any contact at all. Slayer and Asmodean are both introduced in the same book. Asmodean ceases to be any sort of power before the end of that book. It is possible that they have had contact off screen, but RJ said that the evidence of the killer was all in the books.
We do know that Asmodean would have recognized all of the Forsaken by sight.
I always got the feeling that his statement of "Nooo!" was spurred on by an attempt to gain time so that he could explain his predicament so that his killer might assist him, or at least not act. The impression I get is that he's dealing with someone able to have a change of heart - rather than just a soldier. That means one of the Forsaken.
Why would one of the forsaken not know who Slayer is? He is mentioned in the shadow's prophecies and is therefore a big deal for the shadow. I cant imagine Asmo didnt know him by sight.
He knew who his killer was. Knew that seeing his person meant his death. Died in a place and in a way that prevents the DO from transmigrating his soul to another body.
Why would his first instict at seeing a forsaken be to scream "You? NO!" Say this out loud. Go on. Say it. Kind of whisper the "You?" part and mix in a bit of disbelief. Then inhale deeply before Screaming "NO!" This is not something you would say if your first instinct was to schmooze the person standing before into sparing your life. It is something you would say if you found yourself with no way to protect yourself from what you are seeing before you. Knowing full well that what you're seeing means you are a dead man. Afterall, the blood drained from his face before he screamed. He was absolutely terrified.
If it was, as you have always believed, "spurred on by an attempt to gain time so that he could explain his predicament so that his killer might assist him" he would have started with a slight chuckle or clearing his throat and appearing very meek and subservient.
Asmodean may have known of Slayer. Maybe. The shadow is as bad at disseminating information as the light. Worse would be my guess as they're all perpetually jealous of one another and working against one another. So he may have heard that Slayer existed, but there is no evidence, let alone proof, that Asmodean could recognize Slayer on sight. He might have had a way to contact him, or summon him. But that doesn't mean that they were fishing buddies.
Due to his changed allegiances. Judging by the short space between his revelation and death, there wasn't enough time for him to pull off any theatrics. Graendal appears before him. You? Graendal unleashes the stream of baelfire. Noooo!
And how do we know that his couldn't be transmigrated? I don't recall seeing that confirmed in any interviews with RJ. The DO just may have chosen to let him go. The whole betrayal and all. As I recall, the DO isn't that forgiving of failure and betrayal.
let's look at some quotes:
TFoH
Prologue
"Are you certain Asmodean went over?" Sammael demanded. "He never had the courage to take a chance before. Where did he find the heart to join a lost cause?"
Lanfear's brief smile was amused. "He had the courage for an ambush he thought would set him above the rest of us. And when his choice became death or a doomed cause, it took little courage for him to choose."
"And little time, I'll wager." The scar made Sammael's sneer even more biting. "If you were close enough to him to know all of this, why did you leave him alive? You could have killed him before he knew you were there."
Clearly the other FS (Lanfear aside) would kill him on sight, and before he could do anything about it
TFoH
Pale Shadows
The man's hands froze on the strings, his face utterly blank. "Turn back? Demandred, Rahvin, any of them would kill me on sight, now. If I was lucky. Except Lanfear perhaps, and you will understand if don't want to put her to the test. Semirhage could make a boulder beg for mercy and thank her for death. And as for the Great Lord —"
And Asmodean knows they would do it as soon as they saw him ... funny how he died "on sight".
Oddly enough for some reason Asmodean never once mentions Slayer being sent for him as a possible death sentence. Given RJs statements (and apparent surprise that readers didn't figure it out) that the clues are all there and the fact that Slayer is never once mentioned by any of the people involved with Asmo's death it seems unlikely to me that Slayer is the killer.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Had an "Asmoden's Killer" thought
- 20/05/2010 08:07:10 PM
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I think one of the major theories out there is correct. we just...
- 20/05/2010 08:53:06 PM
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Re: I think one of the major theories out there is correct. we just...
- 24/05/2010 10:02:43 PM
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Though an interesting thouht, my guess is no.
- 20/05/2010 10:23:53 PM
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just to throw a thought in there
- 20/05/2010 10:28:49 PM
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But Asmodean wasn't killed in TAR. He was killed in the real world.
- 20/05/2010 11:52:32 PM
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Here is simple reasoning why it was slayer...
- 20/05/2010 10:42:24 PM
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Same rationale can be used for any of the other Forsaken too. *NM*
- 20/05/2010 11:15:59 PM
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I don't recall any evidence that Asmodean knew who Slayer was.
- 21/05/2010 12:09:22 AM
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Re: I don't recall any evidence that Asmodean knew who Slayer was.
- 21/05/2010 05:41:35 AM
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Asmodean knows that the forsaken are probably gunning for him.
- 21/05/2010 02:56:25 PM
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Re: Asmodean knows that the forsaken are probably gunning for him.
- 21/05/2010 03:39:00 PM
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