Active Users:1195 Time:23/11/2024 03:40:33 AM
Re: Take two Terez Send a noteboard - 18/05/2010 06:32:57 AM
I would first say that even if Rand knows that he has to die, I suspect he would believe that he has to die in a way a bit more significant than death-by-lunatic to fullfill the prophecies and so on. As such I think he would very much want to solve death-by-Gawyn, even with balefire.


Perhaps. I think that there are any number of ways that the duel could go down, and I'm not sure why you are focusing on scenarios in which something would go wrong for the prophecies. Like I said, I think it most likely that Rand will manage to give the first fatal blow. With only one arm, he'll be defenseless against Gawyn's counterstroke (it has nothing to do with back-turning...just swordplay).


Yeah, I suppose this is possible. Though it does beg the question of why those maidens did not interfere in the batte to protect Rand in the first place if they were near(see below).


As I said in my post, I think it will be a proper duel. It's probably impossible to predict the exact conditions; I don't see why you would expect me to when there are any number of situations in which it would make sense. It may be a simple matter of honor, accepting the challenge to a duel...or it might be something Gawyn pulls out of Andoran law, like Galad did with Whitecloak law.


I would say that being one handed will place Rand at a disadvantage to someone with two hands.


This is rather obvious. But it doesn't mean that Rand can't hang. He fought five at once with two hands, in Caemlyn.

Second, there is a scene at the beginning of TGS that suggests that Rand has infact not been practising his swordsmanship.


It indicates that Rand fears he will be killed by his first instinct; he even emphasizes the fact that it's not his primary sword hand. It's a rather odd thought, actually, since most of the situations in which his life will be in danger will not involve swordsmen, much less skilled ones. I see it as foreshadowing of his duel with Gawyn.

Also, later in the book, there is another quote in Min's point of view that indicates he is getting used to the one hand thing:

TITLE - The Gathering Storm
CHAPTER: 37 - A Force of Light

Rand reached for a gold and black coat, sliding on one sleeve, then the other. Then did the buttons one after another. He had no trouble with these; he was growing practiced at working with only one hand. Button after button. First, second, third, fourth. . . .

Min felt like screaming.


Just buttons...but Rand is smart enough to be more critical than cocky when it comes to the vulnerability in his sword technique.
Reply to message
My new 'loony' theory - 03/05/2010 11:09:52 AM 2238 Views
Hehe, yeah, we can also discuss it here... - 03/05/2010 12:04:57 PM 1129 Views
Good deal. You're still being prejudiced, though. - 03/05/2010 12:20:00 PM 1257 Views
Of course, I prefer my theory.... - 03/05/2010 01:01:07 PM 990 Views
I suppose it's better than Beslan - 03/05/2010 01:19:52 PM 1167 Views
He, Beslan being Berelain's man in white was a most brilliant theory! - 03/05/2010 01:55:07 PM 1118 Views
See, this is why I am right and you are wrong! - 04/05/2010 03:56:31 AM 939 Views
In my view - 04/05/2010 10:07:02 AM 879 Views
Still prejudiced, of course... - 04/05/2010 10:24:53 AM 992 Views
Just disagreeing - 04/05/2010 11:15:44 AM 968 Views
And repeating yourself. But I have evidence. - 04/05/2010 12:24:06 PM 948 Views
Well... - 04/05/2010 01:10:17 PM 869 Views
This is getting silly - 04/05/2010 01:27:56 PM 867 Views
Mat's reasons for giving up the foxhead ter'angreal - 03/05/2010 03:53:43 PM 1055 Views
Why only the gholam? - 04/05/2010 04:00:18 AM 935 Views
Re: My new 'loony' theory - 03/05/2010 04:27:12 PM 1028 Views
cool people change the subject line - 04/05/2010 04:14:18 AM 1070 Views
Re: cool people change the subject line - 04/05/2010 06:43:01 AM 859 Views
Re: cool people change the subject line - 04/05/2010 07:32:24 AM 924 Views
Re: cool people change the subject line - 04/05/2010 08:31:47 AM 1070 Views
Re: cool people change the subject line - 04/05/2010 09:27:51 AM 1010 Views
oops *NM* - 04/05/2010 09:28:11 AM 603 Views
Re: cool people change the subject line - 04/05/2010 03:17:42 PM 1004 Views
I dont claim to be but didnt you say cool people change the subject line? - 05/05/2010 02:41:49 AM 951 Views
Yes. What of it? *NM* - 05/05/2010 03:22:34 AM 616 Views
Re: My new 'loony' theory - 04/05/2010 04:44:28 AM 1031 Views
what comments by Brandon, and what flaws? - 04/05/2010 04:49:29 AM 999 Views
Re: what comments by Brandon, and what flaws? - 05/05/2010 02:34:33 AM 1139 Views
Thanks. - 05/05/2010 03:21:53 AM 1033 Views
No go. *NM* - 03/11/2010 03:14:13 AM 527 Views
Who draws it out shall follow after - 04/05/2010 12:33:56 PM 1054 Views
I don't think.... - 04/05/2010 01:22:21 PM 964 Views
Gawyn promised not to raise a hand against Rand - 06/05/2010 12:59:47 AM 803 Views
Indeed he did. - 06/05/2010 07:23:44 AM 1183 Views
But... - 06/05/2010 08:52:04 AM 994 Views
Just because it makes more sense to you doesn't make it more likely. I have evidence! - 06/05/2010 09:57:52 AM 828 Views
Well... - 06/05/2010 11:12:42 AM 930 Views
*sigh* - 06/05/2010 01:41:03 PM 1027 Views
I'm still hoping to dissuade you from this crazy idea! - 06/05/2010 02:07:54 PM 985 Views
You won't. - 06/05/2010 02:11:42 PM 954 Views
Gawyn agreed that he would talk with Elayne about this topic - 06/05/2010 02:32:55 PM 1049 Views
Reading comprehension issues. *NM* - 06/05/2010 02:43:28 PM 580 Views
Ah, come on, it's fun to discuss! - 06/05/2010 02:49:01 PM 864 Views
the problem there - 07/05/2010 05:45:23 AM 890 Views
more to the point - 07/05/2010 04:45:40 AM 924 Views
considering Rand won't hurt Elayne - 07/05/2010 05:46:23 AM 855 Views
wow - 06/05/2010 01:46:22 AM 978 Views
thanks! - 06/05/2010 07:25:25 AM 802 Views
Re: thanks! - 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM 893 Views
Nice theory ... - 07/05/2010 06:25:29 PM 1021 Views
Or Elayne could just give it to Gawyn. - 07/05/2010 07:34:44 PM 927 Views
True, but I prefer the idea that he'll steal it because ... - 07/05/2010 08:32:29 PM 878 Views
Thanks - 08/05/2010 07:56:17 AM 877 Views
Nice! But how about.... - 12/05/2010 01:58:00 PM 1106 Views
They'll kill each other - 12/05/2010 02:22:18 PM 794 Views
Also - 12/05/2010 09:06:25 PM 904 Views
Re: Also - 12/05/2010 10:49:51 PM 895 Views
Actually - 12/05/2010 11:50:26 PM 1020 Views
Take two - 17/05/2010 07:33:35 PM 883 Views
Re: Take two - 17/05/2010 11:45:08 PM 919 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 12:52:10 AM 970 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 01:35:46 AM 1035 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 01:45:24 AM 967 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 03:22:37 AM 1087 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 06:32:57 AM 928 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 07:11:08 PM 805 Views
Re: Take two - 18/05/2010 10:07:36 PM 861 Views
From DomA's World Con report - 18/05/2010 10:42:48 PM 852 Views
Yeah, we knew that... - 19/05/2010 08:25:04 AM 1088 Views

Reply to Message