Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because
newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM
I appreciate your points, but they're far afield of what I suggested.
It doesn't really matter if LTT sang. It's no big deal. LTT was prolly a successful over-achiever, so he would've had lots of responsibilities since 17+? His time had better uses. And really, who wants to speculate about LTT way before the Shadow?...
In the Rhuidean flashbacks the Aiel speak of having Aes Sedai travel with them and of Aes Sedai healing arthritis. Remember, their title was "servant of all".
The AS were the Servants, but the Aiel were *their* servants.
Also, the Song the Aiel sing outside the gate IMO is just a standard Seed Song. The Aiel sing it to remind him of how the world was before the breaking when the power was used to creating rather than destroying and of the peace that the Aiel stood for and the Aes Sedai helped to foster.
Additionally. I can't help but notice how often on forums people throw in whole new ideas (like the thought that there are many songs) on a single line that does NOT say that just possibly makes more sense if that were the case.
It's ok, I guess. Actually, I was happy someone reminded me that there must've been many Songs that Aiel sang. Where there's one song, there's another, right?
Maybe they didn't sing that Song to save the citizens, but surely they were trying to remind him of better times. I never thought the Song nullified the OP; it just distracted the AS from using it to somehow kill people running. And the Song sure couldn't cure insanity, as those Aiel got killed by the crazy AS anyway.
Still, wouldn't it be great historical cruelty if the Tinkers are searching for a song that's beautiful and mesmerizes listeners, but DOESN'T cause crops to grow quickly or blight-free? The way history gets twisted - something RJ loves to highlight - it's quite possible.
For my part, I just never understood why board members think there was no special Anti-Shadow song that protected the land, and life (plants). I never understood why they felt that the AoL scene from TSR wasn't connected to the song we learn the Tuathaan seek in the first book. Note that the Song was also mentioned again, also in TSR, featured in the Two Rivers Tinkers...
I simply assumed that the Song Rand experiences is the same as the Song that Raen is searching for, as Seeker. It seems intuitively obv- oh never mind...
It doesn't really matter if LTT sang. It's no big deal. LTT was prolly a successful over-achiever, so he would've had lots of responsibilities since 17+? His time had better uses. And really, who wants to speculate about LTT way before the Shadow?...
In the Rhuidean flashbacks the Aiel speak of having Aes Sedai travel with them and of Aes Sedai healing arthritis. Remember, their title was "servant of all".
The AS were the Servants, but the Aiel were *their* servants.
Also, the Song the Aiel sing outside the gate IMO is just a standard Seed Song. The Aiel sing it to remind him of how the world was before the breaking when the power was used to creating rather than destroying and of the peace that the Aiel stood for and the Aes Sedai helped to foster.
Additionally. I can't help but notice how often on forums people throw in whole new ideas (like the thought that there are many songs) on a single line that does NOT say that just possibly makes more sense if that were the case.
It's ok, I guess. Actually, I was happy someone reminded me that there must've been many Songs that Aiel sang. Where there's one song, there's another, right?
Maybe they didn't sing that Song to save the citizens, but surely they were trying to remind him of better times. I never thought the Song nullified the OP; it just distracted the AS from using it to somehow kill people running. And the Song sure couldn't cure insanity, as those Aiel got killed by the crazy AS anyway.
Still, wouldn't it be great historical cruelty if the Tinkers are searching for a song that's beautiful and mesmerizes listeners, but DOESN'T cause crops to grow quickly or blight-free? The way history gets twisted - something RJ loves to highlight - it's quite possible.
For my part, I just never understood why board members think there was no special Anti-Shadow song that protected the land, and life (plants). I never understood why they felt that the AoL scene from TSR wasn't connected to the song we learn the Tuathaan seek in the first book. Note that the Song was also mentioned again, also in TSR, featured in the Two Rivers Tinkers...
I simply assumed that the Song Rand experiences is the same as the Song that Raen is searching for, as Seeker. It seems intuitively obv- oh never mind...
The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL
- 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM
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there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis.
- 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM
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There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them.
- 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM
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I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn...
- 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM
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They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes.
- 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM
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it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf
- 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM
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because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan?
- 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM
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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial
- 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
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I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet?
- 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM
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This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM*
- 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM
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The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke.
- 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM
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According To The Big Book Of Bad Art
- 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM
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Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art
- 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM
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Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art
- 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM
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--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence .....
- 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM
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Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence .....
- 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM
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How is there "No Song?"
- 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM
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Re: How is there "No Song?"
- 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM
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Oh, ok. But...
- 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM
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I doubt it.
- 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM
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LTT asked it because he was bonkers
- 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM
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I agree.
- 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM
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That's not how his insanity was portrayed.
- 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM
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If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing?
- 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM
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From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed?
- 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM
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I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man.
- 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM
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My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think?
- 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM
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The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel.
- 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM
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Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel.
- 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM
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Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because
- 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM
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