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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
There's that whole thing about the Book of Somethingorother. Book of Changes?

Anyways, it seems they've discussed leaving the universe of the Westlands for another. I'm guessing for their own original, home universe.

A quick hypothesis on the Ogier.

During the Age of Legends, people visited other Universes, including the Finns and the Ogier. They found the Ogier friendly, and welcomed them. The Ogier react negatively to the One Power over time, and so need the stedding, which the Aes Sedai created for them to be able to stay. I'm guessing the Ogier leave after the end of A Memory of Light.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1832 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1140 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 474 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 474 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 963 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1085 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3601 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 858 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 925 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1003 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1140 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 874 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1032 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1046 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 961 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 494 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 927 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 459 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 463 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 1975 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 910 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1596 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 886 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 498 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 892 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 988 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 921 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 968 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1058 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 864 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 898 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1226 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 973 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 922 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 944 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 896 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 853 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 902 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 934 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 951 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 791 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 883 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 936 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 893 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 832 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 847 Views
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