Ok first off not many of the forsaken have actually "died". The fact that they can be reborn, and are basically immortal is part of their power. Only balefire, "trapping" their soul or converting to the light can defeat them.
the only forsaken to actually be killed off are Be'lal, Rahvin, Asmodean, Sammeal, semi and Grendal. 4 of which were done in by balefire, one converted and had his chord taken away, and one was absorbed into Mashadar, a mass of evil souls.
Be'lal I think had a fairly good plan. At that time he knew Rand was a country bumkin that should have fallen with little ease. Had he won he would have gained Callandor and the girls to link with after they got turned to the shadow. Unfortunately the soon to be legend Moiraine pops out and BF's him.
Rahvin, well what can I say he got attacked by Rand, he was trying to lead him toward Sammael which would have worked had he not messed with Rands future mother in-law. bad luck I say.
Asmodean I still believe he did the best job, he was so close to ultimate power, like Demandred close. Again Rand got on his tail and hunted him. This is what lost him his immortality. Later he got off in a way that no one could have prevented. He was the weakest and yet his run was the best.
Sammeal was stupid. He did lure Rand away from his back-up, however why not lure him to the blight? or somewhere he had control. he off all the forsaken had this planned and still failed.
Semi failed because she was semi. Arrogance got her captured and her sadistic nature got her killed.
Grendal, if she's dead , her death earns her a seat on the short bus...If the Dragon Reborn cometh and you know full well from 3 books previous he has Callandor and the CK access key you don't sit your ass around and wait for a confrontation...plain stupid.
At the end of the day 6 forsaken are "toast", and only 1/2 died through incompetence.
the only forsaken to actually be killed off are Be'lal, Rahvin, Asmodean, Sammeal, semi and Grendal. 4 of which were done in by balefire, one converted and had his chord taken away, and one was absorbed into Mashadar, a mass of evil souls.
Be'lal I think had a fairly good plan. At that time he knew Rand was a country bumkin that should have fallen with little ease. Had he won he would have gained Callandor and the girls to link with after they got turned to the shadow. Unfortunately the soon to be legend Moiraine pops out and BF's him.
Rahvin, well what can I say he got attacked by Rand, he was trying to lead him toward Sammael which would have worked had he not messed with Rands future mother in-law. bad luck I say.
Asmodean I still believe he did the best job, he was so close to ultimate power, like Demandred close. Again Rand got on his tail and hunted him. This is what lost him his immortality. Later he got off in a way that no one could have prevented. He was the weakest and yet his run was the best.
Sammeal was stupid. He did lure Rand away from his back-up, however why not lure him to the blight? or somewhere he had control. he off all the forsaken had this planned and still failed.
Semi failed because she was semi. Arrogance got her captured and her sadistic nature got her killed.
Grendal, if she's dead , her death earns her a seat on the short bus...If the Dragon Reborn cometh and you know full well from 3 books previous he has Callandor and the CK access key you don't sit your ass around and wait for a confrontation...plain stupid.
At the end of the day 6 forsaken are "toast", and only 1/2 died through incompetence.
Alll the incompetent Forsaken talk lately...
29/04/2010 07:09:22 AM
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Sammael?
29/04/2010 08:07:24 AM
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Sincerest apologies, the post should've been a reply...
29/04/2010 06:52:23 PM
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Don't sweat it. It's not like we're overflowing with threads and need to cut down on the clutter. *NM*
30/04/2010 01:52:37 AM
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Posting a reply at the bottom of a long thread is a good way for your points to be overlooked. *NM*
30/04/2010 01:51:55 AM
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Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
29/04/2010 02:48:47 PM
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Re: Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
29/04/2010 05:04:56 PM
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Re: Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
29/04/2010 06:05:40 PM
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Sorry - vanished-portal-deaths are like "Dead! His car fell in the river; we never found the body.." *NM*
29/04/2010 07:28:40 PM
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I was hoping the melting gateway meant they were burned out of existence at first. *NM*
29/04/2010 08:10:16 PM
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Jordan didn't care in a 4 book series!
29/04/2010 07:24:24 PM
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Name one bit of good nature to any of the AoL lives of the Forsaken.
30/04/2010 01:49:53 AM
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What about Demandred?
30/04/2010 05:12:55 AM
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D'oh! How come I didn't immediately think of a politician? Seriously?
30/04/2010 12:45:35 PM
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What is your argument?
30/04/2010 06:12:24 PM
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Indeed
01/05/2010 09:35:06 AM
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Except LTT DID do good. You know, saving the world from the Dark One and all. He was good. QED
01/05/2010 05:06:31 PM
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and Demandred fought the Shadow for half the war... what's the point?
01/05/2010 09:20:00 PM
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You can do good without being good. It's mostly the system's fault (credit? )
01/05/2010 11:30:16 PM
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How do you judge people, if not by their actions?
02/05/2010 06:29:16 AM
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The WoT does NOT feature a "small set of characters"
03/05/2010 12:06:56 AM
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I kinda thought most of those points were in what I already wrote
03/05/2010 02:53:04 AM
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Re: Alll the incompetent Forsaken talk lately...
30/04/2010 02:44:06 AM
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I agree with a few of your points
30/04/2010 07:24:59 AM
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