It wasn't a bad plan, considering the constraints Semirhage worked under, like Moridin's orders and the fact she couldn't be Semirhage openly with the Seanchan either, or really include them in her plans (they didn't know she planned to capture Rand).
It was an atrocious plan. I can't think of worse odds. If Semirhage actually thought she could collar Rand under these circumstance then she is insane.
It's not her competence that was her undoing, it's Cadsuane's ter'angreal. If anyone's to blame for what happened, it's Cyndane and Demandred who obviously didn't report to the others after the Cleansing that Rand had gizmos to break weaves. And perhaps if Moridin had not done all this secretely but explained his plans at a meeting first, Demandred would have brought up the danger Rand's people could collapse Semirhage's inverted mask of mirrors and she mustn't get too near them and must spot those with the weave breakers first.
If Semirhage had been at the Cleansing, she would have known this, and according to RJ she was. She didn't need Cyndane or Demandred to tell her. All of the Chosen were attacked by Callandor at some stage, and the PoV's we had explained that their channeling was obviously being detected. Demandred didn't even have evidence of this - merely a theory. Semirhage would have made similar conclusions.
As for her "stupidity" to torture Rand when she had the chance and despite orders, that's not really stupidity nor incompetence. She's a psychopath and a sadist who on top of it had been seriously humiliated by Rand's people - not a good cocktail. It's Shaidar Haran who underestimated Semirhage's pulsions and overestimated her reliability in such a situation. Any psychiatrist could have told SH Semirhage couldn't be trusted to handle this mission and he better keep an eye on it (which actually, it appears he did. Rand didn't get sudden access to the TP by sheer luck)
I'm pretty sure that Semirhage was deliberately sacrificed from the beginning of that scene. The DO (SH) knew that only she could make a man desperate enough to reach for the TP. I don't agree that SH would have opened the TP to Rand when his plan went awry. He knew was Semirhage would do, and he loved the idea.
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Alll the incompetent Forsaken talk lately...
- 29/04/2010 07:09:22 AM
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Sammael?
- 29/04/2010 08:07:24 AM
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Sincerest apologies, the post should've been a reply...
- 29/04/2010 06:52:23 PM
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Don't sweat it. It's not like we're overflowing with threads and need to cut down on the clutter. *NM*
- 30/04/2010 01:52:37 AM
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Posting a reply at the bottom of a long thread is a good way for your points to be overlooked. *NM*
- 30/04/2010 01:51:55 AM
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Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
- 29/04/2010 02:48:47 PM
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Re: Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
- 29/04/2010 05:04:56 PM
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Re: Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
- 29/04/2010 06:05:40 PM
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Sorry - vanished-portal-deaths are like "Dead! His car fell in the river; we never found the body.." *NM*
- 29/04/2010 07:28:40 PM
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I was hoping the melting gateway meant they were burned out of existence at first. *NM*
- 29/04/2010 08:10:16 PM
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Jordan didn't care in a 4 book series!
- 29/04/2010 07:24:24 PM
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Name one bit of good nature to any of the AoL lives of the Forsaken.
- 30/04/2010 01:49:53 AM
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What about Demandred?
- 30/04/2010 05:12:55 AM
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D'oh! How come I didn't immediately think of a politician? Seriously?
- 30/04/2010 12:45:35 PM
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What is your argument?
- 30/04/2010 06:12:24 PM
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Indeed
- 01/05/2010 09:35:06 AM
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Except LTT DID do good. You know, saving the world from the Dark One and all. He was good. QED
- 01/05/2010 05:06:31 PM
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and Demandred fought the Shadow for half the war... what's the point?
- 01/05/2010 09:20:00 PM
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You can do good without being good. It's mostly the system's fault (credit? )
- 01/05/2010 11:30:16 PM
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How do you judge people, if not by their actions?
- 02/05/2010 06:29:16 AM
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The WoT does NOT feature a "small set of characters"
- 03/05/2010 12:06:56 AM
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I kinda thought most of those points were in what I already wrote
- 03/05/2010 02:53:04 AM
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Re: Alll the incompetent Forsaken talk lately...
- 30/04/2010 02:44:06 AM
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I agree with a few of your points
- 30/04/2010 07:24:59 AM
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