The Foresaken had their permission revoked, but the DO can enact consequences on them...
FanEditor10 Send a noteboard - 29/04/2010 04:35:27 AM
I know some readers think that the villains in WoT are lame, but come on!
The DO is not going to allow his own power to destroy him. When he detects Rand close to Shayol Ghul, he will end Rand's access to the TP.
That is if the sane Rand even thinks of using the TP again, which is highly doubtful.
The DO is not going to allow his own power to destroy him. When he detects Rand close to Shayol Ghul, he will end Rand's access to the TP.
That is if the sane Rand even thinks of using the TP again, which is highly doubtful.
Once the permission is given, the channeler has access to the True Power. He doesn't need permission every time. Demandred said he could use it when he needed it. Rand can do the same, unless the Dark One deliberately shuts him off, which I think he will forget to do.
Not only that, but Rand might have channeled through Moridin, in which case the Dark One is really screwed.
I have only ready tGS once so far so maybe I missed something, but my impression wasn't that it was IMPOSSIBLE to use the TP without the DO's permission, but that the Foresaken, the only living people other than Rand who have ever accessed it, will not TRY to use it without the DO's permission. After all, if they piss him off he can just kill them. That's a pretty hard taskmaster.
And where in the novel did it ever indicate that Rand was channeling the TP through Moridin OR that he had the DO's permission? In his own darkest hour watching the woman he loves dying, in the deadness of his soul at that moment the TP flooded into him. It would make sense then that, just like Saidin or Saidar, at need and under the right emotional circumstances the TP would be available without any conscious thought of the Dark One.
And Moridin, if I recall correctly, was nowhere near him. Semhirage was, I believe, the one trying to kill Min, but you cannot draw any power through a person who is far away from you.
I think the True Power is just a force that exists, like the One Power, but the One Power is the Creator's power, and the True Power is the Dark one's power. Under the right circumstances anyone could use it, but the people under the DO's control won't risk his ire. If this is true, then the Dark One CAN'T cut off Rand's use. But you guys may have a point about it not being useful to kill or imprison the Dark One.
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30/10/2009 02:57:09 PM
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I agree with you
30/10/2009 03:24:22 PM
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don't forget you can't touch the true power without the DO's permission
30/10/2009 03:31:25 PM
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I think he will overlook it
30/10/2009 03:46:25 PM
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It also might be that Rand used Moridin as a conduit, making the DO's permission irrelevant.
30/10/2009 03:58:04 PM
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Indeed... Moridin is definitely worried about the connection
30/10/2009 03:59:59 PM
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Right
30/10/2009 04:06:26 PM
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i agree it was def in the DO's best interests to give it to rand THEN, just not when....
30/10/2009 05:57:03 PM
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Seems to me destroying the DO with balefire would take a force equal to his.
06/11/2009 09:57:47 AM
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I think the TP IS the DO - sealing the Bore with it is illogical and impossible.
27/11/2009 12:13:29 AM
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Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
30/10/2009 03:28:06 PM
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Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
30/10/2009 03:36:00 PM
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Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
30/10/2009 09:48:46 PM
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Hello! The TP can only be used with permission!
30/10/2009 10:45:58 PM
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Nope
31/10/2009 05:18:03 AM
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I'm sorry that's wrong...
31/10/2009 08:58:14 AM
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Believe what you want
31/10/2009 09:08:52 AM
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The Foresaken had their permission revoked, but the DO can enact consequences on them...
29/04/2010 04:35:27 AM
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