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Re: Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard Knightscape Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 11:03:54 AM


Actually, neither seem to fit. Why? Because Rand says it's odd it's from his own memory, not Lews Therin's. So, there's something bizarre going on. This is emphasized by the fact Rand points he told no one, not even Min about it. The events out of the Waste shown in Rhuidean are not centuries old, they occured centuries after the Breaking. This doesn't fit.

It seems obvious the scabbard/sword was found near the manor, by the Asha'man digging. They found that recently, brought it to Rand.

Who could have lost a sword with dragons in this area of the Westlands, centuries ago? Elementary, Dr. Watson. It's Guaire Amalasan. Hawkwing fought him in that area, this area is part of Amalasan's first conquests. Rand, in a struggle against Tuon, just got the sword of Hawkwing's archefoe.

But how the heck can Rand know this?

>Rand's head is getting invaded by new people - perhaps the barrier is completely broken and gradually new dead people he isn't the rebirth of will do 'walk-ins'. Not impossible, but a bit loony

>Moridin. Technically, Ishamael shouldn't have been around yet by the time of Amalasan - he joined Hawkwing's court decades later, after the Consolidation. Moridin may however well know enough about those times to know Amalasan had a scabbard like this (which he may have lost and got replaced by another just like it, obviously). This Sword may be as famous as Hawkwing's own Justice. So, it's not Rand but maybe Moridin who knows what this sword is.

> A more puzzling idea: another who could very well remember this sword (even if I'm wrong it's Amalasan, but I'm pretty sure I'm not) is Mat. Rand may be beginning to access Mat's 'Finn' memories at random, without even realizing it's not his own. We may be seing a new incremenent in the 'colours' phenomenon. Eh, eh... if that is so, Rand may be starting to hear wolves next. LOL! I laugh, but if this is what it is, this is rapidly going to escalate into a big tangle. Rand would see Tuon and think of her as his wife and all that sort of thing. You know, I think this one might be my favourite of the three ideas, as loony as it sounds.






My first inclination was that it belonged to an incarnation of the dragon between Lews Therin and Rand Al'Thor. This dragon would have been thought to be a false dragon.
If the theories are combined then perhaps it is the sword of Guaire Amalasan who shared the same soul as Lews Therin and Rand Al'thor.

All good things come to those who wait.
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spoilers from first chapter and a question - 05/09/2009 04:55:30 AM 1913 Views
I assumed he remembered it because it was Lews Therin's *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:18:39 AM 368 Views
But he specifically says that it is from his memories and not Lews Therin's *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:20:29 AM 386 Views
Was it just the scabbard or a new sword too? *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:30:11 AM 373 Views
Good question, I'm not sure, tho if I had to guess I'd say just the scabbard *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:33:08 AM 363 Views
It was the sword - 06/09/2009 12:21:55 AM 768 Views
So think the scabbard is an angreal/ter'angreal? *NM* - 05/09/2009 06:15:45 AM 368 Views
God I hope not, they are entirely too common. *NM* - 05/09/2009 06:21:28 AM 396 Views
It must be... - 07/09/2009 04:37:59 AM 770 Views
Care to elaborate? - 07/09/2009 06:37:14 AM 700 Views
You're right about the sword - 07/09/2009 07:20:22 AM 776 Views
I'd still prefer if it wasn't - 07/09/2009 06:37:19 AM 821 Views
I'm thinking the sword - 05/09/2009 07:05:27 AM 826 Views
Oops - 05/09/2009 07:06:39 AM 729 Views
Re: spoilers from first chapter and a question - 05/09/2009 05:20:10 AM 798 Views
no - 05/09/2009 05:23:29 AM 765 Views
best idea i've read... - 05/09/2009 05:27:47 AM 867 Views
o_O *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:29:37 AM 396 Views
That's... awesome, actually. Although I can't picture - 06/09/2009 05:21:32 AM 801 Views
My thoughts on the PoV character - 05/09/2009 05:42:42 AM 853 Views
Re: My thoughts on the PoV character - 05/09/2009 05:47:00 AM 790 Views
Re: My thoughts on the PoV character - 05/09/2009 05:58:14 AM 813 Views
that isn't related to my being annoyed by him *NM* - 05/09/2009 07:04:14 AM 390 Views
Re: spoilers from first chapter and a question - 05/09/2009 06:27:49 AM 862 Views
I'd bet it's answered in the prologue. *NM* - 05/09/2009 06:28:47 AM 420 Views
I hadn't thought of that - 05/09/2009 06:31:42 AM 772 Views
Re: I hadn't thought of that - 08/09/2009 10:59:46 PM 654 Views
Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard - 05/09/2009 08:07:10 AM 905 Views
Re: Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard - 05/09/2009 11:03:54 AM 815 Views
How about something simpler? - 05/09/2009 05:16:09 PM 769 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 05/09/2009 11:42:01 PM 959 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 08/09/2009 06:25:49 PM 682 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 08/09/2009 11:22:06 PM 708 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 09/09/2009 12:42:08 AM 921 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 04/11/2009 12:12:54 PM 967 Views
Funny thought. - 06/09/2009 10:45:49 PM 732 Views
completly new idea - 05/09/2009 10:07:07 PM 738 Views
Utterly wrong, but i'll throw it in anyway.... - 05/09/2009 01:01:14 PM 684 Views
It's in the Prophecy. Hawking's sword Justice. - 06/09/2009 12:37:13 AM 844 Views
I like that. - 06/09/2009 04:32:16 AM 717 Views
I like that a lot. Seems the most likely out of all of these, too. - 06/09/2009 05:24:08 AM 765 Views
I like it too, and it begs the question... - 06/09/2009 07:37:09 AM 717 Views
I think you might be correct. - 06/09/2009 07:45:17 AM 769 Views
They don't know it's a dragon - 06/09/2009 10:19:11 AM 803 Views
It doesn't really matter - 07/09/2009 01:09:38 AM 756 Views
I said that! - 06/09/2009 09:49:23 AM 798 Views
lol - 06/09/2009 03:36:44 PM 676 Views
Re: lol - 07/09/2009 01:14:59 PM 687 Views
I thought the great sword means it is a very long two-handed sword. - 07/09/2009 01:35:32 AM 759 Views
The scabbard is COMPLETELY wrong - 08/09/2009 01:10:24 AM 747 Views

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